CI Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Remember when he stopped taking goal kicks and he got Collins to launch balls into orbit Was that a knee or groin situation for shay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 22, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2012 That was one game where he tweaked his groin IIRC. He wasn't taken off and was fine by the next game. Again IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I remember it being a few games running tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Given missed 6 games in the Premier League last season. All in a row I think. Not exactly injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copey11 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 the fact of the matter is that we have a lot of work to do on the squad from a talent level, playing style, and wage/revenue ratio perspective. that does not mean that we shouldn't or wouldn't have certain players or positions on higher wages than others, relative to the value provided to the team. In that case, players like Given, Ireland, and Bent, who have performed and earned their wages so to speak (IMO) should be retained pretty much at all costs. Efforts should be made to rebuild and reinforce the rest of the squad, depending on the managers preferences. Any distraction from that task just gets in the way, may use funds in a way that is counterproductive, and just be trying to fix one of the few things we have that isn't catastrophically broken. Could we do better / cheaper than Given? Maybe, but we don't have to do it now. If we did the money would have to be truly, truly absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaleed Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 people are actually advocating we sell given, and give guzan a contract and make him our number one keeper? seriously? Why not? did great when given was out.. and If QPR offer silly money for a 35 year old, your gonna think about it. OMG. You're serious. Really people would be happy with Guzan as our keeper. A 35 yr old keeper has probably 3 or 4 years left at the top. In fact I'd go so far as to say Keepers don't come into their prime until they hit 30. How low have we sunk that some of our fans will accept Guzan as our no.1 keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Guess it boils down to if the new gaffer thinks the fee - lets say £8m + wages - lets say £10m could be put to better use There may be other priorities for that money particularly if funds are tight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 While I think Richard's post is slightly tongue in cheek (I think he might naughtily be referring to Stephen Ireland for example), I don't actually think they will be selling anyone while managerless. The problem is, other clubs have managers and we can't stop them from looking. So the speculation might very well continue. I'd say the squad will be the same by the time a manager is hired. I wouldn't be hugely gutted if we lost Given. His age, his contract and his ability on corners are things we could do without as a club going forward. Yes he's good, but he's far from irreplaceable.Partly tongue in cheek and partly he purchase of Ireland, but the purchase of Ireland also came about during the sale of Milner. But mostly my post was along the lines of given the negative discussions that took place among an element of the fan base over the board taking those decisions with no manager in place, you wouldn't think they would make the same mistake would you? You would think they would listen to the fanbase and learn, afterall that is what the PR and spin has been about recently, that they have listened and learned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 22, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 22, 2012 I agree Richard. I think there are a few reasons to be confident that they have learned something. The speed at which they dumped Eck and the speed they seem to be hiring his replacement (we'll know how fast soon enough). I think they are learning and it's why I'm more positive about our immediate future than I have been in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 he's always the first name on the team sheet, Keepers normally are :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 Reports surfacing again about a QPR bid, £3m if a decent amount, and would give us even greater scope with the wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 10, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2012 Wouldn't be that sorry if we sold him to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousHolteUnion Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 We'd be in the Championship at the minute if not for Shay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 If we sold Given and got Foster in I wouldn't be too displeased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 If we sold Given and got Foster in I wouldn't be too displeased.I would. Foster's ok but Given is a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 If we replaced Given with Ruddy I'd be happy. Then stick Benji Siegreist on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 If we sold Given for £3m, maybe we could poach Foster & Butland off Blues, think they would match Given's wages combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousHolteUnion Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Jesus. Foster was shite a lot of the time this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Ruddy is a great shout but would cost quite a bit given his hype after being in the england squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raf Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I do rate Given as a great shot stopper but he's a high earner and just doesn't seem to command the box from set pieces like a 'top' keeper should. Having said that how could we replace him with a GK of a similar calibre without cutting into the transfer kitty the squad so dearly needs in other areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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