maqroll Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 This means we won 2-1 last May, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 It'll be a points reduction at the start of next season. Hopefully a big reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 And hopefully a Euro ban for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Jack will be jumping ship ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: Are you all just afraid to get your hopes up? Because from what I've seen, it actually seems likely that they're going to pay a devastating and deserved price. No, just been around football for too long that I know very little will happen. I’ve also been around rich companies/industries for far too long and know that money looks after money. Too many on both sides make too much money from the status quo, that will not be risked by any of them. I’m not afraid, I just know the real world! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 6, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 6, 2023 This one is going to be very difficult - if they find City guilty, the punishments will be incredibly delicate - you want something that is significant and real, but you also can't push them hard enough that they simply say "f*** you" and take Man utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle and a couple of others and form their own league with the knobs in Spain and the frauds in Turin. I think we're looking at another three or four years in court before we get to that stage anyway. As might have been mentioned, the timing of this, with the government coming to decisions on oversight very shortly is interesting. Almost a display to put any efforts at oversight off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: Let's say they are stripped of all cups and titles and they are handed to the runners up. This would include such feats as- Stoke City being 2011 FA Cup winners Sunderland 2014 League Cup winners Watford 2019 FA Cup winners What odds for Pep to Chelsea either in the summer of before the end of the season? Means nothing really though doesn’t it, for me any punishment needs to have future consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, maqroll said: It'll be a points reduction at the start of next season. Hopefully a big reduction. I would be utterly astonished if this is settled by then. It could take years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Just now, OutByEaster? said: This one is going to be very difficult - if they find City guilty, the punishments will be incredibly delicate - you want something that is significant and real, but you also can't push them hard enough that they simply say "f*** you" and take Man utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle and a couple of others and form their own league with the knobs in Spain and the frauds in Turin. I think we're looking at another three or four years in court before we get to that stage anyway. As might have been mentioned, the timing of this, with the government coming to decisions on oversight very shortly is interesting. Almost a display to put any efforts at oversight off. If the PL can turn Liverpool and Utd on City, there's no way they'll go off to join them in a Superleague. Just kick em out to go play Juve and Madrid every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, maqroll said: It'll be a points reduction at the start of next season. Hopefully a big reduction. 1 minute ago, maqroll said: And hopefully a Euro ban for 5 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Haha just saw someone on a forum say they are about to become the Jimmy Savile of football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted February 6, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2023 24 minutes ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: Why won’t Citeh go to a court of sports arbitration Cannot go there under Premier League Rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted February 6, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Oh, dear ... definitely maybe needs to STFU? Edited February 6, 2023 by Marka Ragnos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 6, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 6, 2023 One interesting thing will be whether they're looking at sponsorships - City make more sponsorship money than any club in the world. That's including £67.5m from Etihad for the shirt, whatever they pay for the stadium sponsorship and a deal with &e who used to be called Etisalat as their communications partner. - (I presume they changed the name as the Eti in Eitsalat made it a bit obvious where the money was coming from). They also have Experience Abu Dhabi as their official destination partner, Emirates Palace as their official luxury hotel partner, Emirates based Aldar properties as their official real estate partner, Masdar, the Abu Dhabi based energy company as a global partner, First Abu Dhabi Bank as a regional partner and Abu Dhabi based Healthpoint as a regional healthcare partner, And outside of the Emirates, you also have all of these: Nissan, Midea, EA Sports, Cisco, Wix, QNET, Socios, Sure, Axi, JNC, Hays, Xylem, Sony, Gatorade, Unilumin Sports, Dsquared2, Acronis, Therabody, S.C.M, WeWork, Qualtrics, Asahi Super Dry and the controversial 8xBet, linked to the same company as our next shirt sponsor. It'd be interesting to see how many of those companies have the Emirates fund as a shareholder. In fairness, that's not only a Manchester City problem, it's a football problem, there's a whole murky world of money underpinning the Premier league and it's no wonder they're all terrified of government oversight. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 6, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 6, 2023 This is going to be slow and careful and I suspect the punishments at the end will be a process of negotiation between City and the league. Don't expect them to get thrown out of anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: One interesting thing will be whether they're looking at sponsorships - City make more sponsorship money than any club in the world. That's including £67.5m from Etihad for the shirt, whatever they pay for the stadium sponsorship and a deal with &e who used to be called Etisalat as their communications partner. - (I presume they changed the name as the Eti in Eitsalat made it a bit obvious where the money was coming from). They also have Experience Abu Dhabi as their official destination partner, Emirates Palace as their official luxury hotel partner, Emirates based Aldar properties as their official real estate partner, Masdar, the Abu Dhabi based energy company as a global partner, First Abu Dhabi Bank as a regional partner and Abu Dhabi based Healthpoint as a regional healthcare partner, And outside of the Emirates, you also have all of these: Nissan, Midea, EA Sports, Cisco, Wix, QNET, Socios, Sure, Axi, JNC, Hays, Xylem, Sony, Gatorade, Unilumin Sports, Dsquared2, Acronis, Therabody, S.C.M, WeWork, Qualtrics, Asahi Super Dry and the controversial 8xBet, linked to the same company as our next shirt sponsor. It'd be interesting to see how many of those companies have the Emirates fund as a shareholder. In fairness, that's not only a Manchester City problem, it's a football problem, there's a whole murky world of money underpinning the Premier league and it's no wonder they're all terrified of government oversight. There's an opportunity here to sort a few things out. All this official partner crap is a joke. We need an official toilet roll partner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted February 6, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: In fairness, that's not only a Manchester City problem, it's a football problem Almost goes without saying, but some clubs have inflicted profound damage upon others by warping the pitch. "Everyone does it" is the same excuse Juventus just tried to use. Mid-level clubs and small-fry suffer especially badly when the game is crooked. Edited February 6, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Need to ditch all the betting company sponsors, I'd rather booze and fags again They still have official beers etc so they've just changed the name from sponsor to official so and so Edited February 6, 2023 by Talldarkandransome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: This is going to be slow and careful and I suspect the punishments at the end will be a process of negotiation. What do you do in your spare time is entirely up to you mate. I am a liberal minded guy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I hope that this is the beginning of the end of the whole charade of financial fiddling by certain clubs and the whole flimsy house of cards that is the premier league comes crashing down. Be great if Man city is to be 1.....barred from transfers for 5 years, 2...relegated as per rangers to league 2 and 3....I dont know .....their stadium blown up and an industrial waste processing site built on the remains perhaps. We all knew they were cheaters, and now they have been found out, for the integrity of football, the book should be thrown at them and be made an example of.... What will happen though 10k fine .....slap on wrist.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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