ender4 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Straggler said: The thing is why do the players like Mudryk move on? There is almost no way they will get a contract as lucrative as the ones they are on ever again. None of this new intake will ever have to work again, they will need to be really motivated to play to take the financial hit it will almost certainly be to move on. A decent proportion won't make it and won't leave. On the flip side, I can't see many clubs offering to match the wages these guys are on. Actually one of their points of reasoning was that normally you bring in a player on say 4 year contract paying £80k/wk. Then in 2 years you have to negotiate a new 4 contract to keep them at the club and the new contract will inevitably be for much higher, say £150/wk. Same again in 2 more years, this time on a contract for £200k/wk. Instead Chelsea have signed Mudryk on the 8 year contract for £80k/wk and contractually don't need to re-negotiate that salary for at least 6 years. Mudryk is stuck on that 'low' salary for years, even if he becomes one of their best players. Boehly also pointed out that £80k in 4 years time will be worth much less than £80k now, not only from a general inflation perspective but also in the expected Premier League salary inflation which will be much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Straggler said: The thing is why do the players like Mudryk move on? There is almost no way they will get a contract as lucrative as the ones they are on ever again. None of this new intake will ever have to work again, they will need to be really motivated to play to take the financial hit it will almost certainly be to move on. A decent proportion won't make it and won't leave. On the flip side, I can't see many clubs offering to match the wages these guys are on. The only way this model works is if Chelsea have got their player selection spot on. I mean with a higher success rate than pretty much any club has managed to do ever. I think they will become the ultimate dead wood club. Strongly agree. This transfer strategy was insanely risky hubris and arrogance, and most switched-on observers have been saying that all along. If someone comes along with an incredible idea and gullible people are like 'wow I can't believe no-one thought to do it this way before', it's usually worth checking that there isn't in fact an extremely good reason why people haven't been doing it this way before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Once of the favorites for the Chelsea job is Luis Enrique, some of the Chelsea fans i've seen on Twitter seem to think he is a budget Pep (and in some cases better than the bald one). How many Spaniards would that be in charge of PL teams? Must be near half the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ender4 said: Actually one of their points of reasoning was that normally you bring in a player on say 4 year contract paying £80k/wk. Then in 2 years you have to negotiate a new 4 contract to keep them at the club and the new contract will inevitably be for much higher, say £150/wk. Same again in 2 more years, this time on a contract for £200k/wk. Instead Chelsea have signed Mudryk on the 8 year contract for £80k/wk and contractually don't need to re-negotiate that salary for at least 6 years. Mudryk is stuck on that 'low' salary for years, even if he becomes one of their best players. Boehly also pointed out that £80k in 4 years time will be worth much less than £80k now, not only from a general inflation perspective but also in the expected Premier League salary inflation which will be much higher. It's still more money than he'll ever need, and the safety of an 8 year contract that is never going to be increased doesn't exactly encourage top performance. If that's another thing he's publicly said then it's another stupid thing to say. I imagine there'll be rises built in for winning things or the like, and bonuses for goals/assists etc. But when you're on 80k a week, how much does a 1k assist bonus even motivate you? You've got to hope they are all driven by the trophies and success, and then when the success doesn't look forthcoming that they continue to try. Its not really a surprise that someone on an 8 year contract seems to lose ability when the team he plays for is mid table with no hope of europe. Edited April 4, 2023 by MrBlack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, ender4 said: Actually one of their points of reasoning was that normally you bring in a player on say 4 year contract paying £80k/wk. Then in 2 years you have to negotiate a new 4 contract to keep them at the club and the new contract will inevitably be for much higher, say £150/wk. Same again in 2 more years, this time on a contract for £200k/wk. Instead Chelsea have signed Mudryk on the 8 year contract for £80k/wk and contractually don't need to re-negotiate that salary for at least 6 years. Mudryk is stuck on that 'low' salary for years, even if he becomes one of their best players. Boehly also pointed out that £80k in 4 years time will be worth much less than £80k now, not only from a general inflation perspective but also in the expected Premier League salary inflation which will be much higher. That is a nice theory but it's not in practice what happens at all. Players renegotiate mid contact as their value to the club increases in almost all cases (when the player is doing well). It's madness for Chelsea to think otherwise. If they have a player that Madrid would pay 250k a week, on 80k a week, the player will force a move or renegotiate regardless of the contract terms they are on. Chelsea will either have to renegotiate , sell or watch the player refuse to train or plummet in value as form drops away. What Chelsea have done is set a high minimum they will be paying going forwards. Again the opposite of this is a player who does not do well and will never be worth the 80k / week, will continue to drag that money out of the club regardless of form or value. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Kante has played 3 games at Stamford Bridge this season under 3 different managers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stewiek2 Posted April 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2023 Talk of Lampard as caretaker til the end of the season 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted April 5, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: Talk of Lampard as caretaker til the end of the season Yes please. That would help our push for Europe no end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Yes please. That would help our push for Europe no end. And drag them into the relegation scrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 49 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Yes please. That would help our push for Europe no end. The PL just never learns does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 2 hours ago, stewiek2 said: Talk of Lampard as caretaker til the end of the season Apart from it not being a brilliant choice for Chelsea...Frank, come on, have some self respect man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 2 hours ago, stewiek2 said: Talk of Lampard as caretaker til the end of the season Step back Mike Ashley, Boehly might just be the Premier League's funnest owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 2 hours ago, stewiek2 said: Talk of Lampard as caretaker til the end of the season Talk from where? Sensationalist tabloid gutter press or actual credible sources? It seems hugely unlikely that they would even consider him so genuinely wonder where you've read it. It seems like lazy, Sun/Mirror/Star nonsense as much as I'd love it to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: Talk from where? Sensationalist tabloid gutter press or actual credible sources? It seems hugely unlikely that they would even consider him so genuinely wonder where you've read it. It seems like lazy, Sun/Mirror/Star nonsense as much as I'd love it to be true. Been all over Talksport this morning and mentioned on SSN earlier too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 1 minute ago, stewiek2 said: Been all over Talksport this morning and mentioned on SSN earlier too. Ok but are they reporting it as their own story or are they saying whats in the tabloids? Getting Lampard in would.be an absolute disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 3 hours ago, stewiek2 said: Talk of Lampard as caretaker til the end of the season Make it happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: Ok but are they reporting it as their own story or are they saying whats in the tabloids? Getting Lampard in would.be an absolute disaster. No idea, just what has been rumbling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Just now, stewiek2 said: No idea, just what has been rumbling... "Tentative option", "could make a return", that's not news that's lazy journalism/click bait. Would be hilarious if it happened though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Lazy Journalism? Never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 30 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: Talk from where? Sensationalist tabloid gutter press or actual credible sources? It seems hugely unlikely that they would even consider him so genuinely wonder where you've read it. It seems like lazy, Sun/Mirror/Star nonsense as much as I'd love it to be true. Probably just one of his mates in the media trying to get his name about for a job. They'll be doing the same for Slippy G when/if Klopp leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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