VillaChris Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Wigan and Blackburn already down imo, both will struggle to get much over 30 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I think it will be Wigan, Blackburn and wolves. QPR,WBA just keeping their heads above water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Victories for both Wigan and Blackburn today, we can't loose to either of them if we hope to stay up. Massive fixtures coming up after the City game. I just wan't this season to be over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 We won't go down (he says hopefully and with fingers crossed) because there are at least 3 teams who are decidedly worse than we are. Pick any 3 from Wigan, Bolton, Blackburn, Wolves and QPR. That good fortune will be the thing that saves us and McLeish this season. However, there is always next season to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Agree with pacbuddies - it will be 3 from those 5 and no one else. We will only need 35 points or something to stay up this season. There is no chance of relegation this season IMO even under this relegation loving clown of a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Dont underestimate Wigan, Wolves, Blackburn, QPR and the like. All of them have the stomach for a fight and have shown an ability to battlet their way away from the drop. McLeish on the other hand has not, his teams dropped like a stone without a whiff of fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Dont underestimate Wigan, Wolves, Blackburn, QPR and the like. All of them have the stomach for a fight and have shown an ability to battlet their way away from the drop. McLeish on the other hand has not, his teams dropped like a stone without a whiff of fight. We are 7 points ahead of those sides tho. Well aware of McLeish's loving of relegation but a squad with Given , Gabby , Bent wont be relegated this season. Not even McDiabolical could manage that. If he ever did manage to he would go down in history as the shittest manager in world history ever. There would have to be some form of state ceremony to honour such a ridiculous shite acheievement. It won't happen just to be in the dunces half this season is on its own a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I agree it would take a collapse of epic proportions for us to go down. The thing is we're capaple of it, McLeish already done it before and since our team lacks both confidence and leadership we can just hope we stumble upon enough points to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Dont underestimate Wigan, Wolves, Blackburn, QPR and the like. All of them have the stomach for a fight and have shown an ability to battlet their way away from the drop. McLeish on the other hand has not, his teams dropped like a stone without a whiff of fight. We are 7 points ahead of those sides tho. Well aware of McLeish's loving of relegation but a squad with Given , Gabby , Bent wont be relegated this season. Not even McDiabolical could manage that. If he ever did manage to he would go down in history as the shittest manager in world history ever. There would have to be some form of state ceremony to honour such a ridiculous shite acheievement. It won't happen just to be in the dunces half this season is on its own a disgrace.I agree, but what if we get hit with a bad injury crisis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Dont underestimate Wigan, Wolves, Blackburn, QPR and the like. All of them have the stomach for a fight and have shown an ability to battlet their way away from the drop. McLeish on the other hand has not, his teams dropped like a stone without a whiff of fight. We are 7 points ahead of those sides tho. Well aware of McLeish's loving of relegation but a squad with Given , Gabby , Bent wont be relegated this season. Not even McDiabolical could manage that. If he ever did manage to he would go down in history as the shittest manager in world history ever. There would have to be some form of state ceremony to honour such a ridiculous shite acheievement. It won't happen just to be in the dunces half this season is on its own a disgrace.I agree, but what if we get hit with a bad injury crisis? That is purely hypothetical at moment. You don't a need a hypotetical injury crisis or a hypothetical relegation to know that McLeish is a shit manager. For us to be 14th in february is unacceptable , winning 6 games in 24 Prem games , not winning a home game in 4 months is more than enough to criticse this very crap manager. To stay up this season we will only need probably 35 points or something. Which even McRubbish should manage but to be doing as badly as we have done is enough to criticse McLeish for without imagining a very very unlikely relegation this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I know McLeish is terrible, I'm just saying, if we get hit by a bad injury crisis we could be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I'd say the results went for us today...if Bolton had won they'd have been 5 points off us, QPR 4 points off....sad we're even talking about this though. I prefer to look upwards, we're only 5 points off 9th after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Well i said going into the QPR game that we needed 12 points from the next 6 games (discounting the obvious surrender against Man City)to take the heat off & for me that was exactly why Keane was brought in to get us the required points from those fixtures. I had us down as follows QPR (H) WIN .............Actual DRAW Necastle (a) DRAW... ..Actual LOST Man City (H) LOSS...... Actual LOST Wigan (A) DRAW............Actual ???? KEANE LEAVES Blackburn (A) DRAW....Actual???? Fulham (H) WIN..........Actual???? Bolton (H) WIN...........Actual???? Total Pts i guessed at = 10 (allowing for a slip up against either Fulham or Bolton) Actual achieved so far from those 6 with 2 + City played = 1 So we now need to win 3 of the next 4 to be comfortable in my opinion which would put us on 37 points as we then have: Arsenal (A) LOSE Chelsea (H) DRAW Liverpool (A) LOSE Stoke (H) DRAW Man Utd (A) LOSE Sunderland (H) LOSE West Brom (A) LOSE Tottenham (H) LOSE Norwich (A) DRAW So i can only see 3 points from the remaining games realistically on current form... Even that would only have us finishing on 40 points! Too close for comfort for my liking & we best hope we beat the teams below us from now on in else we are really in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The problem is that Mcleish has a habit of finishing seasons poorly - both his relegated teams looked to be reasonably comfortable jan\feb - but then they scarcley won a game. This is where we are at the moment. Looking safe , barring a massive collapse , but with a manager who has record of such collapses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 That's true but again his SHA went down on 39 points...there's no way that figure will be that high. Teams will stay up on 35 or 36 points this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I'm getting scared now. We risk getting sucked into a real dogfight towards the tail end of the season. However, unlike last season I'm not sure we'll put up any fight at all. McLeish has to be one of the worst motivators in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The next couple of games could likely determine if we are going to be in the scrap. I still think we will be ok but I must admit looking at that fixture list does make my stomach go a bit funny (and not just because its a vile despicable act of copyright theft ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 If we don't get maximum points from our next 4 games we're be right in it as we're playing those teams below and around us. Personally, I'd sack AMc now - get a new bloke in over the 2 weeks international break and hope for 'new manager syndrome' to kick in for those vital next fixtures!!!! I hear Capello's available :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The problem is that Mcleish has a habit of finishing seasons poorly - both his relegated teams looked to be reasonably comfortable jan\feb - but then they scarcley won a game. This is where we are at the moment. Looking safe , barring a massive collapse , but with a manager who has record of such collapses Absolutely agree Smetrov The scary thing is our fixture list is perfectly set up for such a collapse in fact i would even go so far as to say it is inevitable with our run starting with Arsenal away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I agree it would take a collapse of epic proportions for us to go down. The thing is we're capaple of it, McLeish already done it before and since our team lacks both confidence and leadership we can just hope we stumble upon enough points to stay up. Indeed. At one stage last season it looked impossible for Blues to go down, but under McLeish they somehow managed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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