Gingerlad Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 RIP Do agree with the comments above about iPods, they are not built to last very long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 An exceptional mobile phone and MP3 player salesman. Computers less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 6, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted October 6, 2011 Nothing against the bloke personally, but (as per the "Cool brands" thread), Apple is a company whose products I avoid like the plague - purely because I got so sick of their fanboys going on and on about how great they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Daniel Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 It took Sony 30 years to sell less than 250,000 Walkman's. It took Apple 10 years to sell 300 Million iPods. Apple has become a household brand. Pretty much everyone i know has some sort of Apple product in their house. R.I.P Steve. I know this is not the place for this but this is worst stat I have ever seen - you simply cannot compare the two. RIP Steve. Have fun in the iCloud. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 How is that the worst stat? Infact it's probable the most poignant one... RIP Mr Jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Apple has become a household brand. Pretty much everyone i know has some sort of Apple product in their house. I dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Nothing against the bloke personally, but (as per the "Cool brands" thread), Apple is a company whose products I avoid like the plague - purely because I got so sick of their fanboys going on and on about how great they are. Indeed Mr Moonster. My above post is inaccurate, in that I do own a Mapple I-Pod shuffle (rarely use it), but did not purchase it. T'was a gift I did not ask for. However, just read a few pages on FB where it seems Mapple and Mobs used underage Labour in a few of its plants, and had unsafe factory conditions too, causing health problems for some of its workers. Squeaky clean he wasn't, Mr Mobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 It took Sony 30 years to sell less than 250,000 Walkman's. It took Apple 10 years to sell 300 Million iPods. Apple has become a household brand. Pretty much everyone i know has some sort of Apple product in their house. R.I.P Steve. I know this is not the place for this but this is worst stat I have ever seen - you simply cannot compare the two. RIP Steve. Have fun in the iCloud. Why? How is that the worst stat? Infact it's probable the most poignant one... For a start it's complete bollocks. Apple have looked at the chart, and ignored that it's in thousands, as in it's 250,000,000 not 250,000. I think the walkman selling 250million in 30 years (actually in just 20 years, Apple extended the sales timeline by 10 years to further skew the figures) is a far bigger achievement than the ipod selling 300million in 10, due to the vastly different market conditions of the time. Ofc no one in the press actually bothers to fact check, so instead of picking Apple up on this they've just ran the same line despite it being complete and utter bollocks and proof of everything that is wrong with Apple. Zero focus on fact checking, 100% focus on headline grabbing tag lines. I do agree that it is the most poignant stat though, a bullshit stat used for marketing hype with no regard for even basic fact checking does epitomise everything Apple under Jobs has stood for. The guy was a world class marketer, probably the best. What he wasn't was a technological genius. His legacy is that he could sell ice to the Eskimos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMFy Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 RIP the man, **** his company. Never have and never will own an Apple product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 iRP Steve Jobs. good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 It took Sony 30 years to sell less than 250,000 Walkman's. It took Apple 10 years to sell 300 Million iPods. Apple has become a household brand. Pretty much everyone i know has some sort of Apple product in their house. R.I.P Steve. I know this is not the place for this but this is worst stat I have ever seen - you simply cannot compare the two. RIP Steve. Have fun in the iCloud. Why? Why? Because its like comparing the number of horses sold in 1700 to the number of Ford Fiesta's sold today. Its utterly ridiculous. The world of the walkman and the world of the iphone are totally different places with different attitudes to technology and economics. The Walkman was the first of its type - the first ever truly portable personal music system. The iPOD/PAD/PHONE are just average pieces of existing technology nicely packaged. The true genius of Apple is iTunes and the AppStore. Sell someone a product, and tie them to your software and environment exclusively. Strange that if Ford were to sell me a car, and then insist I could only have it serviced/MOTd/taced and insured through them it would be anti-competitive. Steve Jobs should be applauded for the ecosystem he created. His products aren't actually that great...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 For a start it's complete bollocks. Apple have looked at the chart, and ignored that it's in thousands, as in it's 250,000,000 not 250,000. I think the walkman selling 250million in 30 years (actually in just 20 years, Apple extended the sales timeline by 10 years to further skew the figures) is a far bigger achievement than the ipod selling 300million in 10, due to the vastly different market conditions of the time. Ofc no one in the press actually bothers to fact check, so instead of picking Apple up on this they've just ran the same line despite it being complete and utter bollocks and proof of everything that is wrong with Apple. Zero focus on fact checking, 100% focus on headline grabbing tag lines. I do agree that it is the most poignant stat though, a bullshit stat used for marketing hype with no regard for even basic fact checking does epitomise everything Apple under Jobs has stood for. The guy was a world class marketer, probably the best. What he wasn't was a technological genius. His legacy is that he could sell ice to the Eskimos. THIS THIS and then some more of THIS. Articulated far better than I ever could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 6, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted October 6, 2011 RIP the man, **** his company. Never have and never will own an Apple product. Pretty much this. Maybe i'm missing something about Apple and their products, but they're really not all that great all revolutionary. What they did was market their products very well.... and for some reason loads of people decided to buy their products when there's arguably better and factually cheaper products out there, which do everything the Apple products do and more. But hey, they come with white headphones, everyone can see I have one so i'm going to buy it to look cool. RIP though, it's a shame when anyone dies really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 6, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted October 6, 2011 How long will it be til these start appearing? Too soon? .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 How long will it be til these start appearing? Too soon? .... Nope. Not soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 How long will it be til these start appearing? Too soon? .... Don't know where I'd be without my iMac based recording studio. Spent ten years recording on PCs and having pretty much constant technical nightmares. Switched to Mac and haven't had a single issue in three years. Thanks Steve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 RIP the man, **** his company. Never have and never will own an Apple product. Pretty much this. Maybe i'm missing something about Apple and their products, but they're really not all that great all revolutionary. What they did was market their products very well.... and for some reason loads of people decided to buy their products when there's arguably better and factually cheaper products out there, which do everything the Apple products do and more. But hey, they come with white headphones, everyone can see I have one so i'm going to buy it to look cool. RIP though, it's a shame when anyone dies really. Same here. I expend a period of mourning for anyone dying anywhere. Jobs was no more or less deserving of life than anyone else, but people should arguably be more upset about local man Fred Bloggs who worked in a factory all his life to feed his kids and helped support the local community than someone who they've never met, lived a great life in luxury and realised it was a good idea to make MP3 players white with a funky name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 6, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted October 6, 2011 Nothing against the bloke personally, but (as per the "Cool brands" thread), Apple is a company whose products I avoid like the plague - purely because I got so sick of their fanboys going on and on about how great they are. In my experience, the anti Apple Fanboys are far more vocal than the apple fanboys. I'd like to think I fit into neither camp (I own an iPhone, but not any other Apple product, and never have) You only have to look at this thread to see people saying "**** his company. Never owned an apple product, never will" Why? What's wrong with owning one of their products? Anyway, RIP to Jobs. Even if you hate his company, you can't ignore the contribution he's made to the technological world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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