Zatman Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The were hardly an independen panel when 2 of the members have big links to Man U and the person bringing the charges plays for Man U and Liverpool and Man U hate each other. was it Gary and Phil Neville? How do you know he admitted using that word or are you just accepting that at face value too? he has told FA and said in interviews. dont get what liverpool fans dint understand about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Adj. 1. racist - based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" racial - of or characteristic of race or races or arising from differences among groups; "racial differences"; "racial discrimination" Ergo Saurez is a RACIST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I'm fed up of people pussyfooting around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I think when people say 'he isn't a racist' it's meant in the term that he doesn't actually hold racist views. To brand someone an actual racist is pretty big and it's not something I'd do. The lady on the tram ...that's a racist. Luis Suarez? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 @toela65: You say Suarez said he never heard it then changed his mind later to say he did? Don't you think that makes his story a little less reliable? Say nothing, then when you realise how much crap you're in, drop someone else in it as well? I find it amusing that you think it's an anti-Suarez thing. Are you going to ask our opinions on Evra? Or not bother because it will disprove your argument that we are biased in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 My opinion is that Evra is a tosser! But, Suarez admitted the fact he used the word and thus was charged. Its not **** rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heystally! Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 This thread is getting farcical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 31, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2011 ...getting?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 "Liverpool's Luis Suarez gave "unreliable" and "inconsistent" evidence to the commission" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 That's the appeal sorted then!!!!! Brilliant - hope they chuck a few more game bans on for the appalling t-shirts too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 the full statement (PDF) Counter signed by Ferguson I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Basically he told Evra he kicked him because he is black, that he doesn't speak to black people and he also used the word negro 7 times. Nice guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Can't be bothered reading all that but it might confirm Suarez is also a liar. Be interesting to see how the bindippers spin this as there's no way they'll conceed his guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Anyone listening to 5Live? There's some crazy Scouser on there saying that Liverpool should take the FA to court for defamation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 31, 2011 Moderator Share Posted December 31, 2011 Basically he told Evra he kicked him because he is black, that he doesn't speak to black people and he also used the word negro 7 times. Nice guy. So even though he's not been charged with being racist it certainly sounds like he is one. Inconsistencies in his evidence, admitting to calling him Negro, and then the incident with the Fulham fans. Not covered himself in glory has he? How embarrassing for LFC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Some key points real quick reading through: 358. Mr Suarez's account of his admitted use of the word "negro" changed several times. He seemed unsure of when the admitted use took place and what triggered it. His account seemed to change in an attempt to fit in with the video evidence. 356. Mr Suarez's pinching of Mr Evra's skin was not an attempt to defuse the situation. On the contrary, it was an attempt to aggravate Mr Evra and to inflame the situation. Mr Suarez's admitted use of the word "negro" when speaking to Mr Evra was not conciliatory and friendly. It was unfriendly and was used as part of Mr Suarez's attempt to wind up Mr Evra. The whole tenor of the exchanges was confrontational and argumentative. Adopting the words used by the Spanish language experts, Mr Suarez did not use "negro" with any sense of rapport or in an attempt to create such rapport. 361. Mr Suarez told us that he said "por que, negro?" in response to Mr Evra saying "Don't touch me, South American". At one point in his interview with the FA, Mr Suarez said that Mr Evra used the words "Don't touch me, sudamericano". In his evidence to us, he said that Mr Evra's words were "Don't touch me, South American", all in English. 364. We found that Mr Evra did not use the words "South American" when speaking to Mr Suarez. The language experts were not familiar with its use as an insult, Mr Evra's denial of his alleged use of it was plausible, we found Mr Suarez's evidence unreliable in many respects, and we found Mr Evra generally to be a credible witness. In total, Mr Suarez used the word "negro" or "negros" seven times in the penalty area. On each occasion, the words were insulting. On each occasion, Mr Suarez breached Rule E3(1). Accordingly, the Charge is proved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 wont be seeing Toela for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 31, 2011 Moderator Share Posted December 31, 2011 wont be seeing Toela for a while Or Suarez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellbydate Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 second best result of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 wont be seeing Toela for a while nah, wait until he reads the statement and finds out the spanish language experts asked to examine the evidence were from the university of manchester its a conspiracy against liverpool after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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