PussEKatt Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, sidcow said: It's an undeniable certainty that ANY thread on VT is enhanced as soon as someone mentions gravy. FACT. Looks like everyone wants to hop on the gravy train. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted April 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2022 Do people watch or enjoy horse racing without having placed a bet on the outcome? Just watch it recreationally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 24, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Do people watch or enjoy horse racing without having placed a bet on the outcome? Just watch it recreationally? I've always wondered this. I mean, people bet on other sports - football, cricket, golf, snooker, etc. But if betting ceased to exist, I'm pretty sure people would still take part in, and watch, them. But horse racing seems to only exist for the purposes of gambling, and without it, it would probably not happen at all (except possibly at a very amateur 'hobby' level). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 21/04/2022 at 14:06, PussEKatt said: Not sure,but surely there is a cut off point. This is the funniest thing you've ever posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 24/04/2022 at 13:05, bickster said: Gravy Aushwitz "Arbeit Macht Pie". Obligatory yes I am going to hell disclaimer. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 17 hours ago, mjmooney said: I've always wondered this. I mean, people bet on other sports - football, cricket, golf, snooker, etc. But if betting ceased to exist, I'm pretty sure people would still take part in, and watch, them. But horse racing seems to only exist for the purposes of gambling, and without it, it would probably not happen at all (except possibly at a very amateur 'hobby' level). I always wonder what the big attraction is in betting on the horses.If you look at the dividens,its about 90% lower than any other sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 17 hours ago, mjmooney said: I've always wondered this. I mean, people bet on other sports - football, cricket, golf, snooker, etc. But if betting ceased to exist, I'm pretty sure people would still take part in, and watch, them. But horse racing seems to only exist for the purposes of gambling, and without it, it would probably not happen at all (except possibly at a very amateur 'hobby' level). officially they do horse racing out in places like UAE without gambling .. From memory you get free competitions where you predict what horses will come first , second , third with prizes given to the winners ... though , I guess it depends on your definition of gambling to that extent The diehard locals use a VPN and place a bet online as if they are from elsewhere anyway ..but horsracing is quite traditional in the UAE so i think it would survive there without any gambling legally or otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, PussEKatt said: I always wonder what the big attraction is in betting on the horses.If you look at the dividens,its about 90% lower than any other sport. I say that about any sports betting tbh , I'll have a flutter from time to time , but for me the returns are just too low in the long run but with gambling you get to tell your friends about the 100-1 outsider that you just had a hunch was going to win ..whilst neglecting to mention the 600 times your hunch didn't come off Edited April 25, 2022 by tonyh29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 18 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: Do people watch or enjoy horse racing without having placed a bet on the outcome? Just watch it recreationally? I doubt it, most gamblers are just looking for good value propositions. I will watch only if I have an interest in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 18 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: Do people watch or enjoy horse racing without having placed a bet on the outcome? Just watch it recreationally? You should try going to ladies day. That's never about gambling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: I always wonder what the big attraction is in betting on the horses.If you look at the dividens,its about 90% lower than any other sport. If you know what you are doing, its quite lucrative. Its probably the one thing that i gambled on over a 15 year period where i was around even in outlay, almost everything else I would be down on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 25, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 25, 2022 19 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: Do people watch or enjoy horse racing without having placed a bet on the outcome? Just watch it recreationally? I know some people who do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, AVFCDAN said: If you know what you are doing, its quite lucrative. Its probably the one thing that i gambled on over a 15 year period where i was around even in outlay, almost everything else I would be down on. Lucrative you say .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Lucrative you say .... not for me obviously but even I was good enough to not lose long term. Without any discipline or a staking points plan breaking even was acceptable. Edited April 25, 2022 by AVFCDAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted April 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2022 58 minutes ago, BOF said: I know some people who do. Do they support a particular jockey or is it more they just want to see a good, close race and they don’t care who wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 25, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Do they support a particular jockey or is it more they just want to see a good, close race and they don’t care who wins? They like the horses. They like the sport. So I guess it's about the close race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 25, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2022 53 minutes ago, BOF said: They like the horses. They like the sport. So I guess it's about the close race. That's what I meant about it surviving only on a small, probably amateur scale (like rural point to point). There will always be a few of those who just enjoy watching (and riding), but without the gambling, nowhere near enough to sustain the cost of the big stables and racecourses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Is anyone on Amber Heard's side in this court battle? Every female, even ones who have suffered abuse in their lives, seem to be 'team Johnny'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Xela said: Is anyone on Amber Heard's side in this court battle? Not after her little home video stunt today (AH). 'team Johnny' seems to be winning in popularity and in court IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted April 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Xela said: Is anyone on Amber Heard's side in this court battle? **** no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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