stewiek2 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Needs putting down like any other donkey. Never in a million years good enough for a sunday league team even by his constant f**k ups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Even if Clark doesn't start, I'd still take the non-existant Clarke that people mention on here over Baker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Dreadful display today. League 1 player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 He is a young player thrown in at the deep end and is basically another victim of how our club has been decimated by the owner. No sorry mate im not having this!!! So basically its none of the players fault, cause they have been brought in to the premiership and been asked to play at this level, something they are unable to do. If there is a serious lack of effort and they are capable of playing a lot better than yes the players are to blame. If they are doing all they can but are simply inferior to the opposition than I think it's unfair to blame the players. I always thought Baker had potential but never looked ready. Should really be loaned out to improve his development instead of playing week in week out in a very poor team battling for survival. Exactly and under a different approach from an owner willing to support his manager we would of been in a position to loan him out and not rely on him to perform consistently in the Premiership which he isn't ready for yet. The guy is 23 and just learning his trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Baker is a raw 21 year old - he is probably ok for the odd game - but it is bordering on negligence to expect a whole season out of him. I don't think Clark is much better either. One of Lambert s unforgivable s starting both his seasons with only 1 experienced CB - got away with last year..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjacobjr Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Baker needs to be gotten out of villa ASAP he is awful a big lump with no ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haito Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Lambert should have got in experienced CB cover instead of wasting funds on Grant Holt. This was a huge mistake with Okore out all year. Baker is far too rash and clumsy to be starting in this league. He is a blood and thunder defender and he is brave to be fair to him but his timing is atrocious. Time after time this year he has gave away stupid penalty's and dangerous free kicks. The worst of it is he isnt improving his timing either as today showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Baker is a raw 21 year old - he is probably ok for the odd game - but it is bordering on negligence to expect a whole season out of him. I don't think Clark is much better either. One of Lambert s unforgivable s starting both his seasons with only 1 experienced CB - got away with last year..... He's just turned 23 according to his wiki... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Baker is a raw 21 year old - he is probably ok for the odd game - but it is bordering on negligence to expect a whole season out of him. I don't think Clark is much better either. One of Lambert s unforgivable s starting both his seasons with only 1 experienced CB - got away with last year..... He is actually 23 now. If he is nowhere near good enough at this age, he never will be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Baker is a raw 21 year old - he is probably ok for the odd game - but it is bordering on negligence to expect a whole season out of him. I don't think Clark is much better either. One of Lambert s unforgivable s starting both his seasons with only 1 experienced CB - got away with last year..... He's just turned 23 according to his wiki... OK....But my point still stands .......ok for the odd game - but week in \ week out ? - should have got Scott Dann for what it would have cost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 So 22/23 year olds are too young to be regulars here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 the whole myth of this being a young team baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 26, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 26, 2014 So 22/23 year olds are too young to be regulars here? Who else is playing central defenders that age every week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 He hasn't looked great but none of the team have. I feel sorry for the academy graduates because they are clearly talented with all the titles they win. When they come into a team and they're surrounded by inexperience and a lack of quality what can we expect. At the top clubs they can bring their academy players to play alongside top players and they learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 the whole myth of this being a young team baffles me. I'm sure the average age of the team is still one of the lowest in the league isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Why is Baker even starting has Clark fallen out with Lambert or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Baker was shocking today. Lambert should have got defensive cover in January but messed another thing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 So 22/23 year olds are too young to be regulars here? Who else is playing central defenders that age every week? Umm...Caulker. Shawcross I suppose played regularly from that age too. I take your point though, it is quite rare for that particular position. I don't think that excuses Baker's performances though. He had loan spells prior to his run in the team. It's not like he was thrown in when he was a teenager or anything. He has just proven to not be very good. He offers sheer physicality and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Got rid of Curtis Davies for a massive loss and now we have Baker instead. Progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I don't rate Baker, never have. He had a poor game today and I just don't think he is improving (like a lot of our players). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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