briny_ear Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Likewise, I'm not sure Olympiakos would take too kindly to the idea of us just "bringing Makoun back" since that is also a season-long loan. Such things don't happen in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 1, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2011 Personally I think Makoun left because he wanted to go now GH has gone, rather then AMC pushing him out the door. In the same way that Cabaye would only join us if GH was in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Personally I think Makoun left because he wanted to go now GH has gone, rather then AMC pushing him out the door. In the same way that Cabaye would only join us if GH was in charge. Sad if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Personally I think Makoun left because he wanted to go now GH has gone, rather then AMC pushing him out the door. In the same way that Cabaye would only join us if GH was in charge. Sad if true. Yep very. One good thing about ged was his pulling power. We'll never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Considering Makoun only managed to get 8 starts under Houllier, and only played 4 full games, it's hard to imagine that he developed some deep attachment to Gerard that would mean he just had to leave when GH was gone. Also, call me a sceptic, but I find the "Cabaye didn't come to Villa because Houllier wasn't staying" story a bit hard to take when you read on to the bit where he says that no-one in the Premier League made an offer until he got a phone call from Alan Pardew, who he didn't know at all but sounded nice on the phone, so he went to Newcastle. Doesn't sound he was as definite as people are making out over which coaches he would or wouldn't play for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Considering Makoun only managed to get 8 starts under Houllier, and only played 4 full games, it's hard to imagine that he developed some deep attachment to Gerard that would mean he just had to leave when GH was gone. Also, call me a sceptic, but I find the "Cabaye didn't come to Villa because Houllier wasn't staying" story a bit hard to take when you read on to the bit where he says that no-one in the Premier League made an offer until he got a phone call from Alan Pardew, who he didn't know at all but sounded nice on the phone, so he went to Newcastle. Doesn't sound he was as definite as people are making out over which coaches he would or wouldn't play for! He played under Houllier at Lyon if I'm not mistaken.' edited for accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Considering Makoun only managed to get 8 starts under Houllier, and only played 4 full games, it's hard to imagine that he developed some deep attachment to Gerard that would mean he just had to leave when GH was gone. Also, call me a sceptic, but I find the "Cabaye didn't come to Villa because Houllier wasn't staying" story a bit hard to take when you read on to the bit where he says that no-one in the Premier League made an offer until he got a phone call from Alan Pardew, who he didn't know at all but sounded nice on the phone, so he went to Newcastle. Doesn't sound he was as definite as people are making out over which coaches he would or wouldn't play for! He played under Houllier at Lille if I'm not mistaken. When did Houllier manage Lille? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaRoy Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Considering Makoun only managed to get 8 starts under Houllier, and only played 4 full games, it's hard to imagine that he developed some deep attachment to Gerard that would mean he just had to leave when GH was gone. Also, call me a sceptic, but I find the "Cabaye didn't come to Villa because Houllier wasn't staying" story a bit hard to take when you read on to the bit where he says that no-one in the Premier League made an offer until he got a phone call from Alan Pardew, who he didn't know at all but sounded nice on the phone, so he went to Newcastle. Doesn't sound he was as definite as people are making out over which coaches he would or wouldn't play for! He played under Houllier at Lille if I'm not mistaken. Lyon. Sir_Gary_Cahill, Messi is world class, Ronaldo is world class, Makoun isn't even guaranteed a start for Cameroon. He was not world class against Fulham, rarely did our midfielders link up play with our strikers that day. We were good first half of that match, poor second half. We got a flukey own goal goal and wonder goal from a right back that day. Makouns a tidy player, Jenas is a tidy player. If Makoun does well at Oly, hopefully we can have him next season, if he still wants to play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Considering Makoun only managed to get 8 starts under Houllier, and only played 4 full games, it's hard to imagine that he developed some deep attachment to Gerard that would mean he just had to leave when GH was gone. Also, call me a sceptic, but I find the "Cabaye didn't come to Villa because Houllier wasn't staying" story a bit hard to take when you read on to the bit where he says that no-one in the Premier League made an offer until he got a phone call from Alan Pardew, who he didn't know at all but sounded nice on the phone, so he went to Newcastle. Doesn't sound he was as definite as people are making out over which coaches he would or wouldn't play for! He played under Houllier at Lille if I'm not mistaken. When did Houllier manage Lille? Sorry about that, I meant Lyon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Considering Makoun only managed to get 8 starts under Houllier, and only played 4 full games, it's hard to imagine that he developed some deep attachment to Gerard that would mean he just had to leave when GH was gone. Also, call me a sceptic, but I find the "Cabaye didn't come to Villa because Houllier wasn't staying" story a bit hard to take when you read on to the bit where he says that no-one in the Premier League made an offer until he got a phone call from Alan Pardew, who he didn't know at all but sounded nice on the phone, so he went to Newcastle. Doesn't sound he was as definite as people are making out over which coaches he would or wouldn't play for! He played under Houllier at Lyon if I'm not mistaken.' edited for accuracyI'm not a big stato on French football but I think Houllier left Lyon in May 2007 and Makoun joined (indeed, from Lille) in June 2008? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Makoun and Cabaye never played under GH before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 You know its desperate when people clamour for the return of JMkII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 You know its desperate when people clamour for the return of JMkII Things aren't that bad yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Considering Makoun only managed to get 8 starts under Houllier, and only played 4 full games, it's hard to imagine that he developed some deep attachment to Gerard that would mean he just had to leave when GH was gone. Also, call me a sceptic, but I find the "Cabaye didn't come to Villa because Houllier wasn't staying" story a bit hard to take when you read on to the bit where he says that no-one in the Premier League made an offer until he got a phone call from Alan Pardew, who he didn't know at all but sounded nice on the phone, so he went to Newcastle. Doesn't sound he was as definite as people are making out over which coaches he would or wouldn't play for! He played under Houllier at Lyon if I'm not mistaken.' edited for accuracyI'm not a big stato on French football but I think Houllier left Lyon in May 2007 and Makoun joined (indeed, from Lille) in June 2008? Oh okay, then I agree with your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 You know its desperate when people clamour for the return of JMkII i agree. Bring back Salifou he can save our troubled midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 1, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2011 The story on the Makoun/Houllier connection IIRC was that Houllier was a known admirer of him and wanted to get him at Lyon but never managed it. After he left Lyon managed to get him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03butpau Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Anyone know how hes getting on at olympiakos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 played 80 minutes on saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 80 mins of 3yd square balls and mistimed tackles no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 80 mins of 3yd square balls and mistimed tackles no doubt That made me chuckle. Andy Gray said something similar the other day (not about Makoun). He was saying how stats can be made into what you want them to be, he was saying how people rave about Barcelona making 2 or 3 hundred passes a game, but how many of them are accross the back 4 being as they never take a long goal kick? Maybe half? 93 successful passes against Man Utd wasnt it for Makoun? How many of them were leading to creating chances? None of them! And after that game people were saying he would be playing for Chelsea or such like by next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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