ForfarVillan Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 17, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 17, 2012 I think this thread may be drifting away from its subject! But, while we're on possession, it is not on its own a very reliable guide to effectiveness or quality of football. Last season, Wigan had eighth highest possession but were poor for most of the season and finished 15th in the real league table. Newcastle, who were one place lower than Wigan on possession, finished 5th. In one notable game last season, Swansea at home to Newcastle had 77% possession but lost 0-2. What is more important is scoring goals and, even more crucially, winning games. If the hero worship for Makoun is based on the assumption (a) that he will turn Villa into a high possession team and ( this will automatically mean we start winning more games, then the reality is (a) he almost certainly won't and ( it simply doesn't follow. Genuine question, where did Newcastle finish in the possession table? What hero worship for Makoun? I've seen none. Genuine answer obtained from the very post you quote 8+1=9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 My apologies I missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Makoun is a quick passer. He offers quick ball and often through balls, not possession for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 What hero worship for Makoun? I've seen none. The guy was a VT cult hero because he had a stupid jumper and sat on a wall in a rap video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevangrealish Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Makoun moved to barcelona on my football manager 2007 game. Hes Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 What hero worship for Makoun? I've seen none. The guy was a VT cult hero because he had a stupid jumper and sat on a wall in a rap video. No he wasn't (and isn't). Just because a few people liked his jumper, doesn't mean he became a cult hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Makoun moved to barcelona on my football manager 2007 game. Hes Class. Seems legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 What hero worship for Makoun? I've seen none. The guy was a VT cult hero because he had a stupid jumper and sat on a wall in a rap video.He's not a cult hero. :? Now Salifou is a cult hero. Still pissed off we didn't get to see him one last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 What hero worship for Makoun? I've seen none. The guy was a VT cult hero because he had a stupid jumper and sat on a wall in a rap video. No he wasn't (and isn't). Just because a few people liked his jumper, doesn't mean he became a cult hero. Exactly when Harewood was at the club there was a Marlon Harewood should grow an afro group on facebook doesn't mean he was a cult hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Birmingham post are reporting him to be given a fresh chance. I suppose that could mean anything - poor as our midfield is - he's well down the pecking order for me - on the other hand i don't suppose many clubs will be queuing to sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 All I know is he was very lucky not to be here last season! That wasn't good for any of our players careers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'm happy he'll be given a fresh start, all we need is a TOP QUALITY CM and we could have quite a good plethora of options in the middle, also giving us freedom for alot of formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrim Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'd give him a fresh start. A midfield and forward line like --------------Bent N'Zogbia - Ireland - Holman - (Throw in Gabby, Albrighton and possibly someone new as options) ----- Makoun - Herd - (With Gardner, Bannan and A new (possibly first choice) DM as options) You don't have a bad looking line up. Herd (or new DM) to break up play and Makoun to link play with the forward line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 If he is to be given a fresh start he'll need to grab it with both hands. Its time for him to shit or get off the pot. I'm personally not sure he is suited to the Prem and having turned 29 I am not sure if he is too set in his ways/has the time to adapt. Hopefully he'll be chomping at the bit having only started 20 odd games in over 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Is he well down the pecking order? If we play 3 in there, the options are Herd, Clark, Ireland, Bannan, Gardner, Delph, Makoun. Clark could easily play at centre back, Ireland might not be here and I'd have him ahead of Delph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Out of our central midfielders (so I'm not including Ireland or Clark and obviously Petrov due to illness) the only one that's proven himself worthy of a starting spot is Herd. Makoun deserves a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I think this might be the season Daniel Johnson breaks through, and for one I think he looks excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Agree with you baz, i think he's superb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 SGC, YOU'RE BACK!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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