PauloBarnesi Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 He may well be an excellent footballer. So was Veron. Doesn’t mean they will be an excellent footballer in the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 What so you've come to that judgement in how many games 10 at most? How many games has Hutton had but he's still shit, we complain our midfield can't pass for toffee but we get rid of one! He was and still is a better option than Jenas in my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Really want him back next season and in the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I remember when the ginger one took over at sha, the first thing he did was cancel palacios' loan spell (who then went on to keep wigan up, a £16million transfer to spurs and champions league football followwed) all this from a player he didn't rate. Mccockend doesn't like technical minded passing football players. A team of Barry Ferguson and diet delap would be a midfield he dreams of. Makoun could yet succeed here. Just not under that prat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I remember when the ginger one took over at sha, the first thing he did was cancel palacios' loan spell (who then went on to keep wigan up, a £16million transfer to spurs and champions league football followwed) a l this from a player he didn't rate. Mccockend doesn't like technical minded passing football players. A team of Barry Ferguson and rory delap would be a midfield he dreams of. Makoun could yet succeed here. Just not under that prat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Why did we loan him out in the first place? Our squad was small We did not have a specialist defensive midfielder We sold a number of midfielders Just dont get it - we paid 6.2 million for him 6 months later he leaves on loan. Christ, if there is one thing he isn't, and that's a "specialist defensive midfielder", the bloke couldn't tackle at all. And the reason we let him leave is that he was rubbish. I don't think he'd be getting a game now even with all the injuries. Houllier even realised he was crap, and he was the idiot who bought him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Really want him back next season and in the team! This! Re: what jim said, dud Palacios play Chumps League, or was he sold to Stoke when they qualified? (I genuinly can't remember) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazilla Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Why did we loan him out in the first place? Our squad was small We did not have a specialist defensive midfielder We sold a number of midfielders Just dont get it - we paid 6.2 million for him 6 months later he leaves on loan. Christ, if there is one thing he isn't, and that's a "specialist defensive midfielder", the bloke couldn't tackle at all. And the reason we let him leave is that he was rubbish. I don't think he'd be getting a game now even with all the injuries. Houllier even realised he was crap, and he was the idiot who bought him! A good manager can get the best out of players. Look what Martinez has done with Maloney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted April 29, 2012 Moderator Share Posted April 29, 2012 Why did we loan him out in the first place? Our squad was small We did not have a specialist defensive midfielder We sold a number of midfielders Just dont get it - we paid 6.2 million for him 6 months later he leaves on loan. Christ, if there is one thing he isn't, and that's a "specialist defensive midfielder", the bloke couldn't tackle at all. And the reason we let him leave is that he was rubbish. I don't think he'd be getting a game now even with all the injuries. Houllier even realised he was crap, and he was the idiot who bought him! A good manager can get the best out of players. Look what Martinez has done with Maloney. Indeed but he can't completely change their make up, no manager could turn Makoun into a specialist defensive midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parisvilla Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Why did we loan him out in the first place? Our squad was small We did not have a specialist defensive midfielder We sold a number of midfielders Just dont get it - we paid 6.2 million for him 6 months later he leaves on loan. Christ, if there is one thing he isn't, and that's a "specialist defensive midfielder", the bloke couldn't tackle at all. And the reason we let him leave is that he was rubbish. I don't think he'd be getting a game now even with all the injuries. Houllier even realised he was crap, and he was the idiot who bought him! Good to know you are such imperious judge of talent that you can write off a player after about 6 appearances in a league he is completely unfamiliar with. I seem to remember him playing very well at the theatre of corruption and at home against Fulham. He was also key to our goal at Blackpool away, with an impeccably sliding timed tackle which set up the counter attack. The reason he was 'dropped' was actually because he was suspended (admittedly this was his fault) and Houllier decided, probably with vindication, to keep Petrov and NRC in the side for the run-in given their experience. Finally to suggest he wouldn't be getting a game in our midfield this season is one of the most laughable statements I've ever read on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Why did we loan him out in the first place? Our squad was small We did not have a specialist defensive midfielder We sold a number of midfielders Just dont get it - we paid 6.2 million for him 6 months later he leaves on loan. Christ, if there is one thing he isn't, and that's a "specialist defensive midfielder", the bloke couldn't tackle at all. And the reason we let him leave is that he was rubbish. I don't think he'd be getting a game now even with all the injuries. Houllier even realised he was crap, and he was the idiot who bought him! Good to know you are such imperious judge of talent that you can write off a player after about 6 appearances in a league he is completely unfamiliar with. I seem to remember him playing very well at the theatre of corruption and at home against Fulham. He was also key to our goal at Blackpool away, with an impeccably sliding timed tackle which set up the counter attack. The reason he was 'dropped' was actually because he was suspended (admittedly this was his fault) and Houllier decided, probably with vindication, to keep Petrov and NRC in the side for the run-in given their experience. Finally to suggest he wouldn't be getting a game in our midfield this season is one of the most laughable statements I've ever read on this forum. The man who bought him didn't play him, nor did McAllister his assistant, nor did McLeish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAFC2000 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Why did we loan him out in the first place? Our squad was small We did not have a specialist defensive midfielder We sold a number of midfielders Just dont get it - we paid 6.2 million for him 6 months later he leaves on loan. Christ, if there is one thing he isn't, and that's a "specialist defensive midfielder", the bloke couldn't tackle at all. And the reason we let him leave is that he was rubbish. I don't think he'd be getting a game now even with all the injuries. Houllier even realised he was crap, and he was the idiot who bought him! lol - I think he is more of a defensive/holding Midfielder than any other type of midfielder. According to this he is a defensive midfielder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Makoun. Most importantly on PM3 it also says he is a defensive midfielder and if it say so on there he must be......! I understand what your saying though he didn't seem amazing at tackling. I look at a lot of the midfield now and I don't think there is much there at all its very much an inexperienced championship midfield. We are in a relegation battle. AM could have waited until the end of the season - or he should of sold him on and used the money to get some better in. Loaning him out was an inept standard move we have come to expect from management. I remember it took Milner and Downing at least a year to settle in at Villa before we started to see their best football and they were English. It would be harder for Makoun. I don't think he is amazing but his experience could be used in crucial time like this. Either way the club has made another mistake. ON the positive side chelski have just gone 4-0 up/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Well, if Makoun is a defensive/holding midfielder, that explains why we loaned him out pronto because he is crap at it. Apart from anything else, getting booked seemingly every time you make a tackle isn't too smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 A guy who scored in a CL game against Real Madrid must be poor. Cant walk into a relegation fight side like Villa. Because we have many of those calibre players. Some of you are kidding yourselves. The guy barely played enough games to get used to the pace of the Premier League. I think he was doing really well in the preseason and was shocked he got marched on. Not so much shocked after the season weve had... because McLeish has no fucken idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 A guy who scored in a CL game against Real Madrid must be poor. Cant walk into a relegation fight side like Villa. Because we have many of those calibre players. Some of you are kidding yourselves. The guy barely played enough games to get used to the pace of the Premier League. I think he was doing really well in the preseason and was shocked he got marched on. Not so much shocked after the season weve had... because McLeish has no fucken idea. This. Its the same people that think Barry Bannan is shit. Him and Makoun both have good control, one touch passing game but they are around players who are shit and cant read the game or think on their level. Hes a CL quality player and we should do our best to get someone like him playing in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_shere Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 He have a good vision for a pass, thats about as much as i remember. Would be worth giving him another go next season depending on transfers in and out. Squads quite bare as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 A guy who scored in a CL game against Real Madrid must be poor. Yes, deciding on a player based on one goal is a really great idea. Let's buy that Zat Knight bloke and play him up front, I saw him score a great goal at The Emirates once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parisvilla Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Why did we loan him out in the first place? Our squad was small We did not have a specialist defensive midfielder We sold a number of midfielders Just dont get it - we paid 6.2 million for him 6 months later he leaves on loan. Christ, if there is one thing he isn't, and that's a "specialist defensive midfielder", the bloke couldn't tackle at all. And the reason we let him leave is that he was rubbish. I don't think he'd be getting a game now even with all the injuries. Houllier even realised he was crap, and he was the idiot who bought him! Good to know you are such imperious judge of talent that you can write off a player after about 6 appearances in a league he is completely unfamiliar with. I seem to remember him playing very well at the theatre of corruption and at home against Fulham. He was also key to our goal at Blackpool away, with an impeccably sliding timed tackle which set up the counter attack. The reason he was 'dropped' was actually because he was suspended (admittedly this was his fault) and Houllier decided, probably with vindication, to keep Petrov and NRC in the side for the run-in given their experience. Finally to suggest he wouldn't be getting a game in our midfield this season is one of the most laughable statements I've ever read on this forum. The man who bought him didn't play him, nor did McAllister his assistant, nor did McLeish. you really shouldn't have referred to McLeish for the benefit of your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I think he is a Deep Lying Playmaker in FM terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Knight scored at Villa Park. Makoun has won some medals with Olympiakos hasnt he? Na not good enough for Villa. Utter rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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