KjParton Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Uncle Ray Graydon said to me today he liked the look of Jack, he said he has the attributes to be a top player. Ray Graydon - A top top quality crosser of the ball. One of the main reasons Andy Gray scored all those goals first time around at Villa Park. Tell him the Holte End says "Hello!" I will - he's just down at Nan & Grandads atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevangrealish Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 Hmmm i think im with andy,morpheous etc not sure about a loan move. However I think jack wouldnt mind if he wasnt going to get any games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'd loan him to a premiership club if there's anyone interested TBH. He'll get a much better education that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'd loan him to a premiership club if there's anyone interested TBH. He'll get a much better education that way better off staying here then, we are not exactly top 6 team to allow our squad players on loan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'd loan him to a premiership club if there's anyone interested TBH. He'll get a much better education that way wut? if he is going to a premiership team then we might as well use him. As I said before it all depends on how many games he get. We will see, I wonder if he is going to be in the squad against shamcock and malaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevangrealish Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'd loan him to a premiership club if there's anyone interested TBH. He'll get a much better education that way better off staying here then, we are not exactly top 6 team to allow our squad players on loan good point zatman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'd loan him to a premiership club if there's anyone interested TBH. He'll get a much better education that way better off staying here then, we are not exactly top 6 team to allow our squad players on loan I think its more to do with the level of players he will come up against rather than who he plays with. He would be best off at championship level for a season IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Why loan him? He's eligable for the U19s Next Gen European Competition which is tremendous experience and he'll probably play more for the U21s development squad than the U18s. Also he'd probably benefit from travelling with the first team during several games and coming on as subs in the Prem or given a starting berth in the cups - last thing we want is to burn the lad out or send him off to a league where they kick lumps out of players showing a bit of skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'd loan him to a premiership club if there's anyone interested TBH. He'll get a much better education that way wut? if he is going to a premiership team then we might as well use him. As I said before it all depends on how many games he get. We will see, I wonder if he is going to be in the squad against shamcock and malaga Obviously if we're going to use him we're not going to send him out on loan regardless. But if we're not going to use him, why not have him cut his teeth in the premier league with another club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Why loan him? He's eligable for the U19s Next Gen European Competition which is tremendous experience and he'll probably play more for the U21s development squad than the U18s. Also he'd probably benefit from travelling with the first team during several games and coming on as subs in the Prem or given a starting berth in the cups - last thing we want is to burn the lad out or send him off to a league where they kick lumps out of players showing a bit of skill. Dress it up how you like but Developmental squads and u19s next gen are still nothing more than reserve team football.. His next step should be regular first team football, he will learn a lot more, including how to deal with defenders trying to kick lumps out of him. Edited August 1, 2013 by Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'd loan him to a premiership club if there's anyone interested TBH. He'll get a much better education that way wut? if he is going to a premiership team then we might as well use him. As I said before it all depends on how many games he get. We will see, I wonder if he is going to be in the squad against shamcock and malaga Obviously if we're going to use him we're not going to send him out on loan regardless. But if we're not going to use him, why not have him cut his teeth in the premier league with another club? Wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Why loan him? He's eligable for the U19s Next Gen European Competition which is tremendous experience and he'll probably play more for the U21s development squad than the U18s. Also he'd probably benefit from travelling with the first team during several games and coming on as subs in the Prem or given a starting berth in the cups - last thing we want is to burn the lad out or send him off to a league where they kick lumps out of players showing a bit of skill. Dress it up how you like but Developmental squads and u19s next gen are still nothing more than reserve team football.. His next step should be regular first team football, he will learn a lot more, including how to deal with defenders trying to kick lumps out of him. But he's only 17. Let him develop a bit more within the club, there's plenty of time to loan him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'd loan him to a premiership club if there's anyone interested TBH. He'll get a much better education that way wut? if he is going to a premiership team then we might as well use him. As I said before it all depends on how many games he get. We will see, I wonder if he is going to be in the squad against shamcock and malaga Obviously if we're going to use him we're not going to send him out on loan regardless. But if we're not going to use him, why not have him cut his teeth in the premier league with another club? That makes no sense as to if Lambert feels he is ready for PL he will use him, the ability is not the main concern either, as we know he has bags of it. Besides, what are the odds he will get gametime at lets say fulham compared to us? None, chances are it would be be hull or palace. And I doubt a 17 year old wonderkid on loan is what they see is fitting. Charlton would be perfect imo, but that`s my look at it. Personal preference would be to see him play several games this year, not a starter but someone who got plenty of time to show himself. Something like Nzogbia got last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2013 But he's only 17. Let him develop a bit more within the club, there's plenty of time to loan him out Thats a good argument 90% of the time, but its as much to do with physical attributes as anything else. 17 is not an unusual age to make a big step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Let him stay, play U19, U21 and the odd first team squad - he will probably(hopefully) make it - hope his head is screwed on as sometimes on twitter he shows his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 If he is good enough he will be played its as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 He'll play for us this season. Even if it's only 5 or 6 appearances, it's still part of the learning curve. I'd consider a month long loan at the start of the season mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Let him stay, play U19, U21 and the odd first team squad - he will probably(hopefully) make it - hope his head is screwed on as sometimes on twitter he shows his age. He is 17. Given a couple of years around men and he'll change, it's part of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Luke Shaw, James Ward-Prowse, Ben Davies All players aged 17/18 who made their bow in the PL last season and looked good. With Grealish looking good in pre-season then he should be playing this season regardless of his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Obviously if we're going to use him we're not going to send him out on loan regardless. But if we're not going to use him, why not have him cut his teeth in the premier league with another club? Wtf I fail to see how that was so confusing for you? If a PL side was willing to take him and play him considerably more than we would, why would it not make sense to let him go there and get PL experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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