Stevo985 Posted October 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Rightdm00 said: Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. This season Diaby will have more G+A than Jack's best PL season. He will do that his first year in with Vila. Diaby will then, baring injury, go on to produce at that level or beyond for multiple seasons. No getting pissed on vacation, or hitting multiple stationary vehicles. Diaby will do all this while being compensated at a fraction of Jack's current wage packet. Jack was great, and we all loved him, but I honestly believe we have moved on and found something much better. Mental 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 21 hours ago, Rightdm00 said: Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. This season Diaby will have more G+A than Jack's best PL season. He will do that his first year in with Vila. Diaby will then, baring injury, go on to produce at that level or beyond for multiple seasons. No getting pissed on vacation, or hitting multiple stationary vehicles. Diaby will do all this while being compensated at a fraction of Jack's current wage packet. Jack was great, and we all loved him, but I honestly believe we have moved on and found something much better. And when Diaby is substituted he doesn't sulk and undermine the manager. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 To be fair to Jack he was a great player in a much worse team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: And when Diaby is substituted he doesn't sulk and undermine the manager. Grealish vs Newcastle was embarrassing. Was probably our most comfortable win that season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 23:56, Stevo985 said: Mental Mental as in you disagree, or mental that Diaby will likely do so much better for us than Jack did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 6 hours ago, TheStagMan said: Mental as in you disagree, or mental that Diaby will likely do so much better for us than Jack did? I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I really don’t get the hatred from some for Grealish. Yes his departure wasn’t handled in the best way, but it has undoubtedly helped us get to this point. He helped drag us into the PL 4 years ago, and was one of the main reasons that we stayed in it the following year. From a financial perspective the £100m of pure profit we brought in has helped build a squad that is now in 5th under a world class manager. We had to sell the likes of Archer, Ramsey and Philogene for FFP reasons, and that is even with selling Grealish. But we’ve also been able to in the likes of Bailey, Buendia, Digne, Moreno, Kamara, Diaby and Torres since then, as well as Emery, and it’s impossible to say that we would have been better off not selling Grealish. This is the best we’ve had things at our club in nearly 30 years and everything that has happened since NSWE has got us here, regardless of whether or not it was painful at the time. Except bringing in Gerrard as manager. That arrogant scouse arsehole deserves everyone’s vitriol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: I really don’t get the hatred from some for Grealish. Yes his departure wasn’t handled in the best way, but it has undoubtedly helped us get to this point. He helped drag us into the PL 4 years ago, and was one of the main reasons that we stayed in it the following year. From a financial perspective the £100m of pure profit we brought in has helped build a squad that is now in 5th under a world class manager. We had to sell the likes of Archer, Ramsey and Philogene for FFP reasons, and that is even with selling Grealish. But we’ve also been able to in the likes of Bailey, Buendia, Digne, Moreno, Kamara, Diaby and Torres since then, as well as Emery, and it’s impossible to say that we would have been better off not selling Grealish. This is the best we’ve had things at our club in nearly 30 years and everything that has happened since NSWE has got us here, regardless of whether or not it was painful at the time. Except bringing in Gerrard as manager. That arrogant scouse arsehole deserves everyone’s vitriol. it's like a bad break up with a girlfriend. it hurts for a while but then you meet someone else that makes you just as happy and you forget all about your ex. like all bad break ups, some people remain bitter for longer. i hated him for a while, but kinda over it now. i get that there are many that are still pissed about it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, tomav84 said: it's like a bad break up with a girlfriend. it hurts for a while but then you meet someone else that makes you just as happy and you forget all about your ex. like all bad break ups, some people remain bitter for longer. i hated him for a while, but kinda over it now. i get that there are many that are still pissed about it Not only that, British people are also still pissed off about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Unai is a smart man, he'd definitely turn down a 100m player if he got on the blower and said he wants to come back home. He knows you can only have one really good attacking player in football. That's just common sense. 2 really good attacking players? That's insane Jeremy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 @rjw63 Americans get pissed about things British people get pissed off about things Let this slip and we'll be describing Autumn as Fall before you know it. These Americanisms piss me off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 hours ago, jacketspuds said: I really don’t get the hatred from some for Grealish. Yes his departure wasn’t handled in the best way, but it has undoubtedly helped us get to this point. He helped drag us into the PL 4 years ago, and was one of the main reasons that we stayed in it the following year. From a financial perspective the £100m of pure profit we brought in has helped build a squad that is now in 5th under a world class manager. We had to sell the likes of Archer, Ramsey and Philogene for FFP reasons, and that is even with selling Grealish. But we’ve also been able to in the likes of Bailey, Buendia, Digne, Moreno, Kamara, Diaby and Torres since then, as well as Emery, and it’s impossible to say that we would have been better off not selling Grealish. This is the best we’ve had things at our club in nearly 30 years and everything that has happened since NSWE has got us here, regardless of whether or not it was painful at the time. Except bringing in Gerrard as manager. That arrogant scouse arsehole deserves everyone’s vitriol. I suppose when it came out that he was trying to leave the previous summers it soured a lot of people more. Plus his egotistical clearing in the woods Dad telling people he will come back later to help us as if we are a charity case Plus he then went and dived vs us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: Unai is a smart man, he'd definitely turn down a 100m player if he got on the blower and said he wants to come back home. He knows you can only have one really good attacking player in football. That's just common sense. 2 really good attacking players? That's insane Jeremy. he sent Coutinho to Qatar quick enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, sidcow said: @rjw63 Americans get pissed about things British people get pissed off about things Let this slip and we'll be describing Autumn as Fall before you know it. These Americanisms piss me off I could care less about this. Sorry, that hurt writing that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 23:29, Zatman said: Didnt get a sniff of the Ballon Dor nominations for a 100 million pound player whose team won the treble is pretty poor Wasnt that one of the reasons he left to be a world star Nope, it was to make a shit ton of money and to win trophies. He's done both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Zatman said: he sent Coutinho to Qatar quick enough How is Coutinho relevant to a discussion about "really good attacking players"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: How is Coutinho relevant to a discussion about "really good attacking players"? Because the point made was why would Unai turn down a 100 million player when Coutinho also cost 100 million and was shown the door 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: Because the point made was why would Unai turn down a 100 million player when Coutinho also cost 100 million and was shown the door Gotcha But I think the answer is Grealish is still good. Coutinho was shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Purely on ability of course we’d have him back. He would probably still be the best player in the team. However there seems to be a great team spirit at the moment with everyone pulling together and it not all being about one player. Would we want to risk upsetting that? All hypothetical though right as there’s no real talk of him coming back is there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Purely on ability of course we’d have him back. He would probably still be the best player in the team. However there seems to be a great team spirit at the moment with everyone pulling together and it not all being about one player. Would we want to risk upsetting that? All hypothetical though right as there’s no real talk of him coming back is there ? I don't see why having Jack back would upset team spirit. Everyone seems to love him at Man City, everyone loved him at Villa I don't know why he seems to be being portrayed as some sort of egotistical primadonna 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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