villa4europe Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Yeah to hardy has done the same, been on screen 3 maybe 4 times and every time has been brilliant with big speeches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Got my planner full ready for xmas. I've been saving peaky blinders for over the festive period, loads of Columbo on record, a few Sherlock Holmes, loads of films, plus all the football that will be on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Until this season I could take or leave Peaky Blinders but season 4 has been brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 14 hours ago, villa4europe said: Yeah to hardy has done the same, been on screen 3 maybe 4 times and every time has been brilliant with big speeches His “who am I?” speech was absolutely brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 OK, so it's decided. I've started re-watching Game of Thrones from season 1. Watching episode 1 now. Only 70 or so hours to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 18, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, sne said: OK, so it's decided. I've started re-watching Game of Thrones from season 1. Watching episode 1 now. Only 70 or so hours to go. Mrs M and I watched the first episode and didn't like it. She's now saying we should perhaps give it another try. Personally, I don't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: Mrs M and I watched the first episode and didn't like it. She's now saying we should perhaps give it another try. Personally, I don't want to. I've seen the whole series and for the most part it's great. But since I've not read the books I've forgotten, missed or confused so much that it's wort a re-watch. Would not do that if it wasn't a very good series. Give it another go. Unless fantasy is not for U, because then I'd probably skip it if I were you. Then again, boobies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2017 Fantasy is not for me, and - while I like boobies as much as the next man - I thought the sex and nudity was gratuitous. The whole thing smacked of fodder for fifteen year old Warhammer fans. Yawn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 44 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Fantasy is not for me, and - while I like boobies as much as the next man - I thought the sex and nudity was gratuitous. The whole thing smacked of fodder for fifteen year old Warhammer fans. Yawn. I mean, I think that the popularity of the series, including with women, suggests that it very much transcends the 'fifteen year old Warhammer fan' demographic (and I know exactly what you mean). However, I think the first episode is a pretty reasonable proxy for the rest of the series, so I'm not sure whether you would see anything that changed your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2017 41 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I mean, I think that the popularity of the series, including with women, suggests that it very much transcends the 'fifteen year old Warhammer fan' demographic (and I know exactly what you mean). However, I think the first episode is a pretty reasonable proxy for the rest of the series, so I'm not sure whether you would see anything that changed your mind. TBH I'm slightly surprised that Mrs M is even considering watching it. I think it's because both of our daughters are huge fans of the show - and they are both VERY right-on feminists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 @mjmooney, I'm the same with game of thrones. A lot of people I know rave about it, and all the nudity etc. The whole fantasy thing and the nudity put me off. I tried a couple of episodes, but no, not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2017 In many ways the fantasy side of Game of Thrones is window dressing, particularly early on. Most of the first 3 series is based on something approaching political intrigue with some background 'oogey boogey' that barely matters. Even the gratuitous nudity dies off quickly after the first series, as per HBO's schtick. It has a few strong female characters that aren't just tits and arse to gawp at that remain throughout the show. It's hardly high art but certainly for 3 series at least it's a very good well made show, wobbles a bit when the story itself does I understand in the book, and in its newest series it's still well made fun bumf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2017 I guess it's because I'm a history geek, but I just think that if they're going to do a War of the Roses-style political intrigue-plus -sword fighting epic, then they should do the actual Wars of the Roses, and drop the dragons (or whatever they have in GoT). It's why I prefer Vikings and Versailles (both of which have plenty of blood and boobies). I tend to watch with a book (and Wikipedia) to hand, to check the background stuff. Sad, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Might start Sons of Anarchy again over the festive period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2017 43 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I guess it's because I'm a history geek, but I just think that if they're going to do a War of the Roses-style political intrigue-plus -sword fighting epic, then they should do the actual Wars of the Roses, and drop the dragons (or whatever they have in GoT). It's why I prefer Vikings and Versailles (both of which have plenty of blood and boobies). I tend to watch with a book (and Wikipedia) to hand, to check the background stuff. Sad, I know. Did you give “The Last Kingdom” a go? It contains a fair bit of violence and a little bit of nudity, but it’s never over the top, History wise, as far as I know it’s fairly accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2017 40 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: Did you give “The Last Kingdom” a go? It contains a fair bit of violence and a little bit of nudity, but it’s never over the top, History wise, as far as I know it’s fairly accurate. I tried it, but gave up, as it wasn't a patch on 'Vikings'. Also, it's based on Bernard Cornwell's books, which I think are shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 hours ago, mjmooney said: Fantasy is not for me, and - while I like boobies as much as the next man - I thought the sex and nudity was gratuitous. The whole thing smacked of fodder for fifteen year old Warhammer fans. Yawn. I'd say the nudity and violence is quite gratuitous in the first season or two. But it does tone down after that. It's still there, but it gets rarer and only pops up when it really needs to be there. Which i much prefer. But it's not for everyone. There are a number of strong female characters in the series which is probably why your daughters approve. It's probably worth committing to the first season. 10 episodes. If you don't like it after that then you probably never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 hours ago, mjmooney said: Fantasy is not for me, and - while I like boobies as much as the next man - I thought the sex and nudity was gratuitous. The whole thing smacked of fodder for fifteen year old Warhammer fans. Yawn. The nudity is actually made up to be a bigger deal than it is. Spread out over 70 h it's less than in any given movie. I think you're right in not bothering if you don't like fantasy, It's a huge world with tons of characters. If you just watch casual you'll miss a lot and then it becomes a fodder for Warhammer fans series. Perhaps you can try History Channels new series Knightfall about the templars. Sadly after 2 episodes it looks a bit meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, sne said: The nudity is actually made up to be a bigger deal than it is. Spread out over 70 h it's less than in any given movie. I think you're right in not bothering if you don't like fantasy, It's a huge world with tons of characters. If you just watch casual you'll miss a lot and then it becomes a fodder for Warhammer fans series. Perhaps you can try History Channels new series Knightfall about the templars. Sadly after 2 episodes it looks a bit meh. Yeah, I saw the trailers for Knightfall, didn't fancy it. I say I like historical dramas, but actually very few of them hit the spot for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2017 GoT is nothing like the pulpy fantasy of Warhammer and so on IMO. It's arguably less fantasy than LoTR in many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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