chrisp65 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, il_serpente said: I hope it convinces all who go to view it to refrain from committing further knife crimes. Not much overlap between those who go to view art and those who commit knife crimes, I hear you say? Cynic!! Here in the US we don't need such a statue because we've found a solution to help suppress knife crime: We arm everyone with guns. It was in Worcester a few weeks back and the base of the statue is an area you can leave unwanted knives. You’ll never get rid of every knife, obviously, but it might help someone somewhere one time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Bringing back stop and search was the best thing we could do. The pussies who disagree, have blood on there hands. Ooooh, look who's piped up @Stevo985 I would never have believed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Follyfoot said: Is it a homage to Jeepers Creepers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 3, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Ooooh, look who's piped up @Stevo985 I would never have believed it. Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: It was in Worcester a few weeks back and the base of the statue is an area you can leave unwanted knives. You’ll never get rid of every knife, obviously, but it might help someone somewhere one time. If it does it is a success. Some big **** off machete things in its structure, horrible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Follyfoot said: Its like 10000 knives when all you need is a spoon. How ironic. Or something like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 16 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Just bought a TV with a solar powered remote control. I can see absolutely no downside to this. Will report back in November. My new TV came with a remote that doesn’t have any batteries, but you have to charge with a USB cable like your phone. So annoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted June 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 03/06/2022 at 20:15, foreveryoung said: Bringing back stop and search was the best thing we could do. The pussies who disagree, have blood on there hands. I think I'd be worried if I ever agreed with you on something 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: I think I'd be worried if I ever agreed with you on something Why is stop and search not a good idea to stop knife crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Why is stop and search not a good idea to stop knife crime? Because after several years of implementation, it doesn't seem to work, and they've been completely incapable of implementing the ineffective policy in a way which isn't discriminatory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Because after several years of implementation, it doesn't seem to work, and they've been completely incapable of implementing the ineffective policy in a way which isn't discriminatory. | guess it's hard to not be discriminatory when a bigger percentage of the people who carried knifes were black. it's attitudes towards the police too. Watched too many rap videos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Demitri_C Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Because after several years of implementation, it doesn't seem to work, and they've been completely incapable of implementing the ineffective policy in a way which isn't discriminatory. If it convicts one person carrying a knife no matter what their ethnic back ground is it has worked. But it needs to be implemented better thats the biggest issue for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: Don't worry I'm giving up debate on VT. There's no debate, someones always right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: If it convicts one person carrying a knife no matter what their ethnic back ground is it has worked. But it needs to be implemented better thats the biggest issue for me It's gonna upset a few how ever you do it, a few on here. But I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted June 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: If it convicts one person carrying a knife no matter what their ethnic back ground is it has worked. If they stop tens of thousands of people with no reasonable suspicion, taking up the time of tens of thousands of innocent people, mostly based on prejudice, but stumble upon one weapon, you think it's justified? Perhaps you'd feel slightly differently if you were being targeted, Can the police rummage through your possessions? Just in case mate. How about once a month or so? It's just, some people that look a bit like your type committed some crime, so you know, we think you're probably a wrong 'un as well. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: | guess it's hard to not be discriminatory when a bigger percentage of the people who carried knifes were black. it's attitudes towards the police too. Watched too many rap videos. Do you have the stats to back this up? More importantly, do you contest the argument that it was ineffective? If so, do you have the stats to back that up? You love rigorous debate so much, I'm sure you can back it up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: | guess it's hard to not be discriminatory when a bigger percentage of the people who carried knifes were black. it's attitudes towards the police too. Watched too many rap videos. ONS Quote Unfortunately, we do not hold police recorded crime figures on robbery or offences involving a knife or sharp instrument, by ethnic group. On ‘attitudes towards the police’… black adults make up 3% of the population, yet account for 18% of the stop and searches (2020 data - Gov.uk) - no surprise that there is a mistrust of the police in this community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: If they stop tens of thousands of people with no reasonable suspicion, taking up the time of tens of thousands of innocent people, mostly based on prejudice, but stumble upon one weapon, you think it's justified? Perhaps you'd feel slightly differently if you were being targeted, Can the police rummage through your possessions? Just in case mate. How about once a month or so? It's just, some people that look a bit like your type committed some crime, so you know, we think you're probably a wrong 'un as well. If it stops one murder of course. That could be your loved one! (Touch wood) If its trained and implemented properly with no discrimination then i have no issue with it. As i said in my previous post the problem is its not done correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Just now, chappy said: ONS On ‘attitudes towards the police’… black adults make up 3% of the population, yet account for 18% of the stop and searches (2020 data - Gov.uk) - no surprise that there is a mistrust of the police in this community. Biggest issue right there why its causing problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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