Chindie Posted January 13, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2010 I seem to remember the problem with the term half cast being put rather well by a mixed race poet of Jamaican descent who took the term to it's extreme as a term for half a person. I think mixed race is the best term (obviously the very best would be 'person' and until we can get that kind of thinking across the board we're stuck with the overt idea of us and them and so on) and I don't think it really can be termed offensive on any level in any way, other than the afore mentioned othering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenda Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 So....how do Indian girls wipe their arses then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I seem to remember the problem with the term half cast being put rather well by a mixed race poet of Jamaican descent who took the term to it's extreme as a term for half a person. I think mixed race is the best term (obviously the very best would be 'person' and until we can get that kind of thinking across the board we're stuck with the overt idea of us and them and so on) and I don't think it really can be termed offensive on any level in any way, other than the afore mentioned othering. That bloke came to our school, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY HAAAAAAAALF CAAAAST" He was quite good, funny in a weird way. I personally don't see the term half-cast offensive, I've got 2 black mates and my best mate is half-cast, but to be fair then again, I rarely use the term, just say black mainly but again never in a position to use it as I rarely ever have to describe him to someone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 13, 2010 Moderator Share Posted January 13, 2010 Was it Benjamin Zephaniah? Villa Fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Everyone knows black friends are called chocolate bear. And white friends are vanilla bear. Just the way it is bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant(aka_eddy) Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I think the half cast/mixed race thing is geographical. In Brum it seems to be used by all with no negative connotations at all, yet on the few occassions the term half cast has cropped up in conversation with people from down south they have been horrified. One occassion it was my boss who had been bullied within her community for being half cast or 'half breed' as they used to compare it to being the same status as a dog. That was a lovely comfortable afternoon at work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 My mate calls himself a half-breed. I hate coming across the wrong way but once you know them and are good mates, "friendly" racism happens every single day in our 6th form. Although actual racism is sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I seem to remember the problem with the term half cast being put rather well by a mixed race poet of Jamaican descent who took the term to it's extreme as a term for half a person. I think mixed race is the best term (obviously the very best would be 'person' and until we can get that kind of thinking across the board we're stuck with the overt idea of us and them and so on) and I don't think it really can be termed offensive on any level in any way, other than the afore mentioned othering. That bloke came to our school, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY HAAAAAAAALF CAAAAST" He was quite good, funny in a weird way. I personally don't see the term half-cast offensive, I've got 2 black mates and my best mate is half-cast, but to be fair then again, I rarely use the term, just say black mainly but again never in a position to use it as I rarely ever have to describe him to someone... It was John Agard. Analysing poems really got me far in life. Ugh, **** poems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 14, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2010 Indeed, the only reason I remember that poem is because I was forced to analyse and compare it with countless others for my GCSEs. I think the only poetry that didn't completely die for me post analysis was Blakes stuff, and that was touch and go. Maybe some Wilfred Owen stuff. ...how off-topic is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Argh, comparing poems, did that a couple years ago. Was horrible but a respectable C in that shit! Borin'ell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 GCSE is wank for poetry. A Level is much better for it. Don't see what it has to do with them Indians though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 So....how do Indian girls wipe their arses then? Often and with Ice cubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjmooney Posted January 14, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2010 Analysing poems really got me far in life. Ugh, **** poems. **** poems you say? e e cummings (appropriate name!) springs to mind: may i feel said he may i feel said he (i'll squeal said she just once said he) it's fun said she (may i touch said he how much said she a lot said he) why not said she (let's go said he not too far said she what's too far said he where you are said she) may i stay said he which way said she like this said he if you kiss said she may i move said he is it love said she) if you're willing said he (but you're killing said she but it's life said he but your wife said she now said he) ow said she (tiptop said he don't stop said she oh no said he) go slow said she (cccome?said he ummm said she) you're divine!said he (you are Mine said she) Has "sentimental associations" for me.... :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I seem to remember the problem with the term half cast being put rather well by a mixed race poet of Jamaican descent who took the term to it's extreme as a term for half a person. I think mixed race is the best term (obviously the very best would be 'person' and until we can get that kind of thinking across the board we're stuck with the overt idea of us and them and so on) and I don't think it really can be termed offensive on any level in any way, other than the afore mentioned othering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 GCSE is wank for poetry. A Level is much better for it. Poetry is wank full stop I think it's rather plop It's a complete waste of time all that trying to make stuff rhyme you wouldn't catch me doing it cause any poem i write ,would be a load of shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Does it really imply you are half a person though? Half cast means, half white, half black. Half + Half = 1. In agreement with Grant's point about it being geographical. Had always used it with no ill feeling, but when I used it once I got to uni I was a raving racist apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerlad Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 How about Half Chat? My grandad used to use that term all the time. But he was a racisit bastard. Non Ginger too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villadude Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 So....how do Indian girls wipe their arses then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted January 14, 2010 Author Share Posted January 14, 2010 So....how do Indian girls wipe their arses then? I wouldn't know how Indian girls wipe their asses. If you read that topic I have made no contribution about how I or anyone else wipes their ass. Try again ******* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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