Villa_Vids Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 30 minutes ago, maqroll said: Also mind-numbingly conformist. I'm not an american but I feel like bad owners can sit on investments in the American sports and get richer but not earn it. Maybe I am wrong with that assessment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
479Villan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 hours ago, GarethRDR said: No. No no no no no no. It looked cheap, tacky and plain **** awful when Puma did it for a season to all their national teams and clubs, it only really works in the context of the MLS because they've been doing it long enough already and the garish bombast is on-brand for the American audience (okay, maybe that's a bit harsh) but **** me does it look so amateur-hour. Our badge is our identity (Heck's efforts to the contrary), we don't need the name emblazoned across the chest like some Fisher Price alphabet fridge magnets. The options should only ever be 1) chest sponsor that pays us 2) a charity we want to support 3) nothing at all (nothing at all, nothing at all... stupid sexy Flanders). Not that, um, I feel particularly strongly about this, or course. 2 of these shirts have a direct tie to the early days of the club (Kansas City and Galaxy), the Miami is a lift from the Miami Vice font so whatever on that. Can't speak to the other clubs or what they might look like, but this is nothing like Puma's design a few years back that was done to basically identify teams as Puma clubs from a distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
479Villan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 9 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said: I'm not an american but I feel like bad owners can sit on investments in the American sports and get richer but not earn it. Maybe I am wrong with that assessment? It's not a coincidence Americans are buying English (and even Welsh) clubs also. Buying sports clubs is, by and large, a safe investment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 20 minutes ago, 479Villan said: It's not a coincidence Americans are buying English (and even Welsh) clubs also. Buying sports clubs is, by and large, a safe investment. I think of Randy Lerner and Ellis Short who put money in but got nothing/little in return but lost a lot of money - I feel like american sport protects the owners investment/money better than over here. It seems less corrupt but also sterile to new ideas. English football is more open to ideas carried by investment but also unforgiving if a person doesn't have the required investment, knowledge and a plan. FFP has probably made buying English clubs a safer venture too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 There used to be an old adage that went something like: Q: How do you end up with a small fortune? A: Start with a large fortune and then buy a football club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
479Villan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said: I think of Randy Lerner and Ellis Short who put money in but got nothing/little in return but lost a lot of money - I feel like american sport protects the owners investment/money better than over here. It seems less corrupt but also sterile to new ideas. English football is more open to ideas carried by investment but also unforgiving if a person doesn't have the required investment, knowledge and a plan. FFP has probably made buying English clubs a safer venture too. Well, I don't tend to trust any accounting I see from a sports team because in America it is all a shell game. Owners will tell you they are losing money or barely squeaking by but the insane rising costs of buying a franchise in a sport (when they rarely come up for sale) tells me a lot more than the numbers cooked by an in house accountant. That is probably why I have such trouble following arguments about FFP and what not, because the clubs are being thought to give accurate numbers and I'll never wrap my head around that. It feels almost....naive... on the part of traditional owners to not figure out how to game the system to protect yourself. Not defending it, it's just a different world. That is likely the franchise model protecting itself also. Those profits are why we see Super League talks, of course. And those accounting tricks are how Chelsea has sprung all their deals the past few years. Europe is learning the American franchise system (or trying hard), and American accountants are worming their way through the football financial systems. I'm sure that has nothing to do at all with the new systems being proposed/implemented in England though for teams...gotta be just coincidence. Yes, coincidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 16 hours ago, allani said: I really like that. I think it might also look good in claret and blue. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Teale's 'tache Posted March 20 Popular Post Share Posted March 20 15 hours ago, Villa_Vids said: Could you mock up this kit - our first official pro one (1888) in the football league. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, Teale's 'tache said: Hate half and half shirts but that’s nice (aside from the shitty Heck badge). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted March 20 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20 This in claret and blue would be lovely. Simple but I love it. also… that Scotland badge wouldn’t be too far from the mark either! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 18 hours ago, Villa_Vids said: I'm not an american but I feel like bad owners can sit on investments in the American sports and get richer but not earn it. Maybe I am wrong with that assessment? Not at all! There are owners all over the league who are widely considered to be terrible for their teams but make money hand over fist, the most notorious probably being James Dolan of the New York Knicks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 20/03/2024 at 11:11, Teale's 'tache said: Me likey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceemo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) Massive news. Doubles the current deal but is still another gambling sponsor. 2-year-deal which ends when the ban on gambling sponsorship starts. Edited March 21 by Ceemo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceemo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) Betano currently sponsor Braga and Sporting Lisbon Edited March 21 by Ceemo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Heck doing what he was brought in to do. Doubling the value is huge for us. We have always struggled to get real money for our shirt sponsors. Nothing compared to the others up at the top but a huge step in the right direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Nice in terms of FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 14 minutes ago, Ceemo said: Betano currently sponsor Braga and Sporting Lisbon and one of the sponsors of Euro 2024 with UEFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 15 minutes ago, nick76 said: and one of the sponsors of Euro 2024 with UEFA Does that make them more legit and legal than our current sponsors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Does that make them more legit and legal than our current sponsors? Hmm let me think about that for a second.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Does this logo work better on a shirt than the BK8 one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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