tomav84 Posted October 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, TheMightyVillans said: goal given as onside on one angle and then VAR changes the angle and gives it offside... that was really bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) My question (if they're not going to introduce semi automated VAR) is why are people manually drawing lines? A football pitch is just a rectangle in perspective - it's trivially easy to project a grid onto the playing surface and then let a computer plot the lines. All the officials should be doing is selecting the furthest part of the attacker and defender's body. As it stands (as far as I understand it) you're trusting that a VAR official is able to draw the correct line in perspective. Or am I incorrect and the perspective is ready-drawn? Edited October 28, 2023 by oishiiniku_uk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheMightyVillans said: goal given as onside on one angle and then VAR changes the angle and gives it offside... from what I saw, that first angle line went right through Rodriguez head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Do Newcastle get a lot of Saturday evening games or my imagination? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Mr_Dogg said: Do Newcastle get a lot of Saturday evening games or my imagination? Perfect time to watch the match in Saudi Arabia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, oishiiniku_uk said: My question (if they're not going to introduce semi automated VAR) is why are people manually drawing lines? A football pitch is just a rectangle in perspective - it's trivially easy to project a grid onto the playing surface and then let a computer plot the lines. All the officials should be doing is selecting the furthest part of the attacker and defender's body. As it stands (as far as I understand it) you're trusting that a VAR official is able to draw the correct line in perspective. Or am I incorrect and the perspective is ready-drawn? The tech does this and the var via the camera tech basically just picks the best angle, frame, and the tech drags the line into position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Davkaus said: The tech does this and the var via the camera tech basically just picks the best angle, frame, and the tech drags the line into position Ah, ok. Then why do they still get it wrong so often? Shouldn't it be foolproof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, Villatillidie95 said: Up the philogene Calm down Kevin Spacey.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 another potential stoppage time winner for bellingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, oishiiniku_uk said: Ah, ok. Then why do they still get it wrong so often? Shouldn't it be foolproof? I don't think there are too many (any?) examples of them getting a physical onside/offside wrong, in fairness. Where decisions have been wrong/controversial has been the infamous comms breakdown in the spurs/liverpool game, and then more subjective decisions like interfering with play, etc. That Liverpool/Spurs decision and the footage released is how I know about the lines, you can see their process here: https://www.premierleague.com/news/3718057?sf269410963=1, you see them drawing the lines about 50 seconds in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: I don't think there are too many (any?) examples of them getting a physical onside/offside wrong, in fairness. Where decisions have been wrong/controversial has been the infamous comms breakdown in the spurs/liverpool game, and then more subjective decisions like interfering with play, etc. That Liverpool/Spurs decision and the footage released is how I know about the lines, you can see their process here: https://www.premierleague.com/news/3718057?sf269410963=1, you see them drawing the lines about 50 seconds in Ok cheers. They drew the lines wrong at Bournemouth initially though. I still don't get how it's possible if the perspective is being handled automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted October 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2023 Bellingham is some footballer, just destroyed Barca after they led with a brace and the first one was an absolute worldie... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted October 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Villan_of_oz said: Bellingham is some footballer, just destroyed Barca after they led with a brace and the first one was an absolute worldie... He may well be the best English player of all time by the time he retires. Safe to say if he puts in a couple of seasons like he's started this one for Real he'll be a legend there for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Perfect time to watch the match in Saudi Arabia. Opposite isn't it? This is the yank time slot (especially the later Saturday night games) With the +3 hours (?) saudis probably don't have a bad KO time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Wolves should get something here. Looking at Newcastle bench and half of them were signed by Benitez and Steve Bruce. We've got better strength in depth this season if that's the best they can put out with 3-4 injuries to their first 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 newcastle got 6 fullbacks on the bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Sheffield United fancy breaking Derby’s record this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Peter Drury... What a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2023 Bloody wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Mark Albrighton said: Bloody wolves They've played o.k in fairness, Neto as ever a huge danger in final third. They'll score at some point tonight, thought they might have been starting the big CF now and having Cunha and Neto running on to his flick ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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