Moussa Diaby

[ThunderPower_14]

Everything looks so positive about this getting done but then the other half of football twitter has him all but confirmed to Al Nassr. 

Let's see him holding a shirt up. Massive signing if we can get it done. 

[Daulmakan]

On 12/07/2023 at 05:13, KMitch said:

Great...  Bailey 2.0 but with the height of Tommy Elphick...  Can't wait...  /s

I just saw this on reddit: 

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Fun fact: his 9G 9A final season at Bayer Leverkusen before signing for Villa is the exact same output as Leon Bailey's 9G 9A final season at Bayer Leverkusen before signing for Villa

 

I haven't seen Diaby at all so I can't comment. At the very least he's extra depth and motivation for everyone to step up.

Edited July 21, 2023 by Daulmakan

[Anything11]

1 hour ago, GlobalVillan said:

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. I was referring to arguments on here where I was clear we would make a couple of 30 to 40 mil transfers amd probably no higher. 

It was on the context of a debate about whether we would spend 50 to 60 mil on players. Starting with a debate about Chiesa.

After being informed by a couple of agents who work closely with Villa, that we weren't in for certain players and that the news on the grapevine amongst agents was that we wouldn't be in that market, I mentioned it on VT.  I had debates about it with some posters as they disagreed with the information I was providing.

This was weeks ago.

My comments then about Diaby were relevant to that.

What you have posted is absolute nonsense. I was merely stating that its consistent with what I posted at the time and your post misses that point completely.

I get information from various sources due to the fact I work with players and agents all the time. I have given information previously to posters on here directly.

I will refrain from mentioning anything else I hear from people within the game on this forum in future to save being "deservedly ridiculed".

However, at least acknowledge what I have said in this post and why your above post missed the point.

[MotoMkali]

5 minutes ago, Daulmakan said:

I just saw this on reddit: 

 

I haven't seen Diaby at all so I can't comment. At the very least he's extra depth and motivation for everyone to step up.

Once again crucially ignores the fact that Bailey when he can sprint has been devastatingly effective at times for us. It's just he can't trust his hamstrings atm so rarely uses his pace the way we know he can. 

[TheMightyVillans]

If 35mill is the real price then i'm convinced our negotiations involve Monchi locking players/agents in a room and threatening to cause harm to their families if they don't sign with us.

[villan95]

1 hour ago, Daulmakan said:

I just saw this on reddit: 

 

I haven't seen Diaby at all so I can't comment. At the very least he's extra depth and motivation for everyone to step up.

I've done a stats comparison of Bailey's final season in the Bundesliga and Diaby last season here and while there are similarities a few interesting things jump out: Diaby had a higher xG + xA. He attempted more progressive passes. His pass completion was higher (especially longer passes) Also he got a higher percentage of his shots on target.

https://fbref.com/tiny/ud3yj

9G + 9A is also Bailey's best season whereas Diaby has previously managed 13G + 12A.

I'd add to that although I've only watched highlights of Diaby, from the eye test he just looks a better player.

And like you say hopefully the competition for places raises everybody's level too.

Edited July 21, 2023 by villan95

[Vive_La_Villa]

1 hour ago, Daulmakan said:

I just saw this on reddit: 

 

I haven't seen Diaby at all so I can't comment. At the very least he's extra depth and motivation for everyone to step up.

Fun fact. Bamford was one of the best strikers in the Premier League without crowds! 
 

The thing is I don’t even think Bailey has been that bad. He’s just been unlucky with injuries.

[Aston_Villan4]

9 minutes ago, villan95 said:

I've done a stats comparison of Bailey's final season in the Bundesliga and Diaby last season here and while there are similarities a few interesting things jump out: Diaby had a higher xG + xA. He attempted more progressive passes. His pass completion was higher (especially longer passes) Also he got a higher percentage of his shots on target.

https://fbref.com/tiny/ud3yj

9G + 9A is also Bailey's best season whereas Diaby has previously managed 13G + 12A.

I'd add to that although I've only watched highlights of Diaby, from the eye test he just looks a better player.

And like you say hopefully the competition for places raises everybody's level too.

Here’s some more good statistical information on Diaby from a few days ago:

https://theanalyst.com/na/2023/07/moussa-diaby-chase-huge-statement-of-intent-by-ambitious-aston-villa/

 

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Moussa Diaby Chase a Huge Statement of Intent by Ambitious Aston Villa

 

[oishiiniku_uk]

4 hours ago, MotoMkali said:

Once again crucially ignores the fact that Bailey when he can sprint has been devastatingly effective at times for us. It's just he can't trust his hamstrings atm so rarely uses his pace the way we know he can. 

Regardless of whether he trusts his body or not, I think Bailey can run with the ball when there's space to run into, but struggles to dribble in tight spaces. From what I've seen of Diaby he looks much better at carrying the ball at pace no matter where he is on the pitch.

Edited July 21, 2023 by oishiiniku_uk
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[allani]

12 minutes ago, oishiiniku_uk said:

Regardless of whether he trusts his body or not, I think Bailey can run with the ball when there's space to run into, but struggles to dribble in tight spaces. From what I've seen of Diaby he looks much better at carrying the ball at pace no matter where he is on the pitch.

I think part of the problem was that he was trying to do too much.  I know one (or two) swallows doth not a summer make - but towards the end of last season I thought Bailey was starting to drive into the box better and then lay the ball back into the middle of the area for arriving midfielders to slot home.  I think he'll do well (mainly off the bench) this season when opposition defenders are tiring and hopefully he has a good spell of time injury free.

[John]

11 hours ago, MachoFantastico said:

Does anyone know if he speaks English? 

 

[John]

This one has been ringing in my ears since last night, perhaps we will be singing it at Villa Park this season? 

 

"Ay Ay Ay Ay Moosey, Ay Ay Ay Ay Moosey,
Ay Ay Ay Ay Moosey, To Help Me Through The Day"

What I do know is:

[The_Steve]

French journalist who broke the deal earlier says that Diaby turned down a big offer from Saudi to come here and he's signed a 5 year deal with us 

 

 

[lexicon]

6 hours ago, GlobalVillan said:

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. I was referring to arguments on here where I was clear we would make a couple of 30 to 40 mil transfers amd probably no higher. 

It was on the context of a debate about whether we would spend 50 to 60 mil on players. Starting with a debate about Chiesa.

After being informed by a couple of agents who work closely with Villa, that we weren't in for certain players and that the news on the grapevine amongst agents was that we wouldn't be in that market, I mentioned it on VT.  I had debates about it with some posters as they disagreed with the information I was providing.

This was weeks ago.

My comments then about Diaby were relevant to that.

What you have posted is absolute nonsense. I was merely stating that its consistent with what I posted at the time and your post misses that point completely.

I get information from various sources due to the fact I work with players and agents all the time. I have given information previously to posters on here directly.

I will refrain from mentioning anything else I hear from people within the game on this forum in future to save being "deservedly ridiculed".

However, at least acknowledge what I have said in this post and why your above post missed the point.

And here we enter the ITK phase known as 'Denial of Service' as they threaten to not post anymore, having not received the adulation or attention they feel they deserve, despite not really telling us anything. 

Don't threaten us with a good time!

[DeadlyDirk]

7 hours ago, GlobalVillan said:

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. I was referring to arguments on here where I was clear we would make a couple of 30 to 40 mil transfers amd probably no higher. 

It was on the context of a debate about whether we would spend 50 to 60 mil on players. Starting with a debate about Chiesa.

After being informed by a couple of agents who work closely with Villa, that we weren't in for certain players and that the news on the grapevine amongst agents was that we wouldn't be in that market, I mentioned it on VT.  I had debates about it with some posters as they disagreed with the information I was providing.

This was weeks ago.

My comments then about Diaby were relevant to that.

What you have posted is absolute nonsense. I was merely stating that its consistent with what I posted at the time and your post misses that point completely.

I get information from various sources due to the fact I work with players and agents all the time. I have given information previously to posters on here directly.

I will refrain from mentioning anything else I hear from people within the game on this forum in future to save being "deservedly ridiculed".

However, at least acknowledge what I have said in this post and why your above post missed the point.

Nice having you back on here under a different guise VillaLad.

[fightoffyour]

14 minutes ago, DeadlyDirk said:

Nice having you back on here under a different guise VillaLad.

Come on, @GlobalVillan is a real person and actually a Villa fan.

[Adam2003]

4 hours ago, villan95 said:

I'd add to that although I've only watched highlights of Diaby, from the eye test he just looks a better player

My concern on his highlights videos is they often have him beating a man, doing some amazing skill, playing a pass… and then cut to the next highlight, so you can tell the pass didn’t end up where it was meant to go! But I try not to judge a player on highlights vids - for example maybe his off the ball work is way better than Bailey, I couldn’t tell you as I’ve never watched him play a full game. I also don’t think at the price quoted (versus if he was £50m) he needs to be a worldbeater - if he’s only actually at the level of Bailey, Buendia etc but it means when we make a sub we have one of them coming on vs Traore or Duran, that’s squad improvement. 

[DeadlyDirk]

YouTube Highlight vids..... Aleksander Tonev.

On a vaguely connected sidenote, I hate those vids which claims to have all the goals from "the game" only to cut to the goal about 1 second before the ball hits the back of the net. Rant over.

[Wes]

 

[foreveryoung]

Done deal then, medical today