Anything11 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 We know from his time at Leicester and earlier this season that he needs game time to get up to speed. He is building that right now and we should see more fitness and less wayward passing as he progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 18/02/2024 at 12:19, Tom13 said: Up to seven goal contributions in all comps That's good, in 21 appearances too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Anything11 said: We know from his time at Leicester and earlier this season that he needs game time to get up to speed. He is building that right now and we should see more fitness and less wayward passing as he progresses. Crikey, how long does a player need to get "up to fitness"? He's played 18 games worth of minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: That's good, in 21 appearances too. 31 in all comps (seven contributions was in all comps) - not forgetting quite a few of these will have been sub apps Edited February 20 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 32 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Crikey, how long does a player need to get "up to fitness"? He's played 18 games worth of minutes. In the run up to Christmas before he got injured, he'd made 1 sub appearance and 3 starter appearances before the masterclass vs man city. Then he got injured He's now played roughly the same amount of games since his injury to be right at the same level as he was against City. This 18 matches are spread out through the season, including a lot of sub appearances and most of then prior to his injury. If you want to claim he won't hit his heights very regularly because he'll keep getting injured you might have a valid point, but if he starts fit for at least another few games, we should see the best of him in those games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 As I said before Fulham game great as a 10. Idea of him playing Kamara role is ludicrous yet some podcasts suggested he would play that role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Steero113 said: Crikey, how long does a player need to get "up to fitness"? He's played 18 games worth of minutes. Crikey, how do expect a player to stay fit while out for 4 games with a calf injury? The mind boggles. These are his minutes since returning - 26 (Everton) , 63 (Newcastle) , 81 (Sheffield United), 17 (Man United), and 90 (Fulham) So its actually just over 3 games worth of minutes since returning. Do better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Poor lad busting his gut trying to overtake Ollie at the end of the first half. Could barely get there and Ollie was the one running with the ball! If he had a half yard more of pace, he'd never gone for a free transfer. But overall has played well in the 10 position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 20 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20 8 minutes ago, DJBOB said: Poor lad busting his gut trying to overtake Ollie at the end of the first half. Could barely get there and Ollie was the one running with the ball! If he had a half yard more of pace, he'd never gone for a free transfer. But overall has played well in the 10 position. haha yeah ollie's last few touches were him looking out the corner of his eye waiting for him to turn up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 11 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: As I said before Fulham game great as a 10. Idea of him playing Kamara role is ludicrous yet some podcasts suggested he would play that role. Against lower half opposition I think it could work with him and Luiz, both are sufficiently capable defensively, at least good enough at reading the game and at positioning to keep it tight. Their passing would boss the midfield. But agree that he is great also as a play maker no 10. The combination of Luiz, Kamara and Tielemans as a triangle in the middle is really well balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Against lower half opposition I think it could work with him and Luiz Seem to remember him rubbish vs Legia. No recovery pace is terrible for DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 He’s not suitable at all for DM but why would we want to play him there anyway. He’s a potential match winner playing further up midfield with his ability to find the right pass into the final third. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post omariqy Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 Think Emery has used him well, in the advanced positions. That is where he is best. Apart from Buendia, we don’t have a player who can do what he does in terms of playing the killer ball. With Ramsey now back, Tielemans has to continue in that 10 position. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 9 hours ago, DakotaVilla said: He’s not suitable at all for DM but why would we want to play him there anyway. He’s a potential match winner playing further up midfield with his ability to find the right pass into the final third. Emery seems to agree, as when Kamara was injured he turned to mcginn to fill his role instead of tielemans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Tielemans in the 6 would be more a Pirlo type playmaking non tackling option. He’d need a DM and CM next to him to do his running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) On 20/02/2024 at 10:57, Anything11 said: Crikey, how do expect a player to stay fit while out for 4 games with a calf injury? The mind boggles. These are his minutes since returning - 26 (Everton) , 63 (Newcastle) , 81 (Sheffield United), 17 (Man United), and 90 (Fulham) So its actually just over 3 games worth of minutes since returning. Do better. Another typically passive aggressive post which could have been delivered in a far less derogatory tone. Thanks, I suppose. Edited February 21 by Steero113 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 20 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Seem to remember him rubbish vs Legia. No recovery pace is terrible for DM Yeah he was bad in that game, not up to speed. Agree he is not suited as a DM, but what I think could work against the lower teams is if Luiz takes the DM role and Tielemans takes Luiz role. But I fully understand Emery playing McGinn with Luiz instead of Tielemans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Seeing him running for that chance he had was the funniest thing I saw all week. He strained every muscle to get there and Ollie was just waiting for him to catch up. He had no energy left for the finish. Diaby probably threw his arms up on the bench when he saw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Seeing him running for that chance he had was the funniest thing I saw all week. He strained every muscle to get there and Ollie was just waiting for him to catch up. He had no energy left for the finish. Diaby probably threw his arms up on the bench when he saw that. And some say he shows no effort . You could see him putting absolutely everything he had into that run. But, if that's the standard of his finishing after a run that hard, it's probably for the best that he doesn't try and do it every match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 21 hours ago, DakotaVilla said: He’s not suitable at all for DM but why would we want to play him there anyway. He’s a potential match winner playing further up midfield with his ability to find the right pass into the final third. Not really true. In a game with a low block his passing range would help us a lot opening spaces from deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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