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I think that we might actually already have enough points for 4th.....

Among their remaining 6 games, Spurs face Chelsea (a), Manchester City (h), Arsenal (h) & Liverpool (a). They won't start as favourites to win any of those games and their goal difference might also take the odd hit in some of those games, that couldn't easily be compensated in their other 2 matches. They are clear favourites against Burnley (h) & Sheffield United (a), but that only brings them up to 66 points. I could see them not taking a point from those other 4 games and I struggle to see them getting more than 2 points from them.

That would leave us needing just 2 points from our remaining 4 games. A win against Chelsea next weekend would deflate Spurs and they would then need 4 points from those 4 games, assuming they win their other 2, I think that would be a very big ask. That said, I still think we might just have enough points and 2 more, would provide us with some insurance, against Spurs getting the odd unexpected point.     

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4 minutes ago, John said:

I think that we might actually already have enough points for 4th.....

Among their remaining 6 games, Spurs face Chelsea (a), Manchester City (h), Arsenal (h) & Liverpool (a). They won't start as favourites to win any of those games and their goal difference might also take the odd hit in some of those games, that couldn't easily be compensated in their other 2 matches. They are clear favourites against Burnley (h) & Sheffield United (a), but that only brings them up to 66 points. I could see them not taking a point from those other 4 games and I struggle to see them getting more than 2 points from them.

That would leave us needing just 2 points from our remaining 4 games. A win against Chelsea next weekend would deflate Spurs and they would then need 4 points from those 4 games, assuming they win their other 2, I think that would be a very big ask. That said, I still think we might just have enough points and 2 more, would provide us with some insurance, against Spurs getting the odd unexpected point.     

This. But we must not be complacent: all is not done until the fat lady has sung.

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Lets not forget Villa have beaten Chelsea, Man City and Arsenal (Twice) this season, so certainly Spurs can beat them too. Personally I don't think they will win any of them games, but its wishful thinking, if we could predict football results correctly we would all be Millionaires so bound to be results we dont expect. 

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11 minutes ago, PerryBarrPet said:

This. But we must not be complacent: all is not done until the fat lady has sung.

Let's just beat Chelsea, then there's so much pressure on the Tottingham in the norf landan derby. Lose that and stay 9 points adrift with 5 games to play and having City in the next game might just be a bit much for them. 

Mind you, even if we lose to Chelsea if Arsenal give them a good shoeing following by the same against City they'd have to make up 6 points in 4 games. Two of which would be another london derby against Chelsea and a tough game against Liverpool.

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6 hours ago, Kiwivillan said:

Felt like being on VT reading some comments

To be fair to us all, thats a fall out from supporting Villa for past 15 years.  Its a self coping mechanism so as to not get to disappointed when we get let down.  Which lets face it, has happened consistently.  Takes time to build up confidence again and we are talking years. It was just one knock after the other.  
 

If there is such a thing as football PTSD, 90% of us probably have it

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Would be nice to finish on 2ppg! 10 from 4 - don't see why not.

Think 4th is as good as done now (opta has us up to 80.7% chance) - I just can't see Unai letting it slip. The confidence and momentum is with us throughout the squad - they believe.

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Calling it here first, Spurs will beat Man City on the final day and this will hand Arsenal the title (Spurs record against City is excellent), they will also win either chelsea or arsenal game, they will too beat Sheff Utd and draw against Burnley, thats 10 pts secured, we will only need to win 2 more matches and find ourselves on 72 points and that i feel will ultimately be enough, 4 points is risky imo as they could also beat burnley too.

We all seem to be underestimating spurs based on fixtures but anything can happen in any of those games for example look at what we did at Arsenal, guys it is far from over and we cant get complacent at this stage we have to be weary and realistic and just try to win every match.

UTV!! 

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1 hour ago, John said:

I think that we might actually already have enough points for 4th.....

Among their remaining 6 games, Spurs face Chelsea (a), Manchester City (h), Arsenal (h) & Liverpool (a). They won't start as favourites to win any of those games and their goal difference might also take the odd hit in some of those games, that couldn't easily be compensated in their other 2 matches. They are clear favourites against Burnley (h) & Sheffield United (a), but that only brings them up to 66 points. I could see them not taking a point from those other 4 games and I struggle to see them getting more than 2 points from them.

That would leave us needing just 2 points from our remaining 4 games. A win against Chelsea next weekend would deflate Spurs and they would then need 4 points from those 4 games, assuming they win their other 2, I think that would be a very big ask. That said, I still think we might just have enough points and 2 more, would provide us with some insurance, against Spurs getting the odd unexpected point.     

No chance! this is just wishful thinking ❌

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7 minutes ago, RicRic said:

Calling it here first, Spurs will beat Man City on the final day and this will hand Arsenal the title (Spurs record against City is excellent), they will also win either chelsea or arsenal game, they will too beat Sheff Utd and draw against Burnley, thats 10 pts secured, we will only need to win 2 more matches and find ourselves on 72 points and that i feel will ultimately be enough, 4 points is risky imo as they could also beat burnley too.

We all seem to be underestimating spurs based on fixtures but anything can happen in any of those games for example look at what we did at Arsenal, guys it is far from over and we cant get complacent at this stage we have to be weary and realistic and just try to win every match.

UTV!! 

If you have them beating City and Arsenal, what do you see in this Burnley team that makes you think Spurs would only draw against them?!

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Just watched the last episode of the Sunderland 'Till I Die documentary. Fans crying. Dads with kids crying. Everyone crying. 

If / when we win the UECL and / or qualify for Champions League, there will be tears. Fact.

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19 minutes ago, RicRic said:

Calling it here first, Spurs will beat Man City on the final day and this will hand Arsenal the title (Spurs record against City is excellent), they will also win either chelsea or arsenal game, they will too beat Sheff Utd and draw against Burnley, thats 10 pts secured, we will only need to win 2 more matches and find ourselves on 72 points and that i feel will ultimately be enough, 4 points is risky imo as they could also beat burnley too.

We all seem to be underestimating spurs based on fixtures but anything can happen in any of those games for example look at what we did at Arsenal, guys it is far from over and we cant get complacent at this stage we have to be weary and realistic and just try to win every match.

UTV!! 

That would be great, Spurs beat City to hand their bitter rivals the title AND they the still don't get 4th 🤣

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55 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said:

Beat Chelsea and surely, surely 4th is all but sewn up?

Almost certainly.

Even if Spurs then won 4 of their last 6 we'd only need 3 points from 3 games (including Brighton and Palace) to finish ahead of them.

 

I think 70 points will be enough but would make it very tight. I think if we get to 72 then it's done, and if we beat Chelsea on the weekend we'd only need to win one of our last 3 to achieve that

So yeah. Beat Chelsea and the fat lady will be warming her vocal chords

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