Popular Post Talldarkandransome Posted March 18 Popular Post Share Posted March 18 And the best thing about it is that I would have been over the moon with 6th. As would most of you lot. Let's just enjoy it now and get us over the line 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted March 18 Popular Post Share Posted March 18 (edited) This international break could not have come at a better time. Granted McGinn will be missing for next 2, but get through Wolves, whatever against citeh, and we then should have a lot of key players back. Emery has performed a minor miracle rotating his squad out of necessity, fielding our least worst options at all times, he has totally squeaked us through this period and we remain 4th. With those players back and full of energy I expect us to see this season out and achieve our goals. Edited March 18 by Jareth 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 11 hours ago, VillaChris said: I think at max Man. United will get about 64-65 points with what they have left so would mean we just need a point a game to finish above them so it's well within our capabilities. Us getting 1 point a game would mean Emery's worst ever run with us by a mile, and probably one of the worst runs of his career. Why would that randomly happen? We're fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 13 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Us getting 1 point a game would mean Emery's worst ever run with us by a mile, and probably one of the worst runs of his career. Why would that randomly happen? We're fine. I think we are playing at 1.5ppg level at the moment. We maintain that then we will get 70 points. More than enough for 5th. 4th will be a stretch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 13 hours ago, Tayls said: Still worried about Man U. They win that game in hand and they are only 6 points behind us. To rule them out would be foolish in my view. We have an 18 goal difference that’s basically feels like a 9 point gap even if they win their game in hand. They aren’t in the running for 4th. Spurs have a 17 goal advantage over United too. Edited March 18 by The_Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 We basically need to win our next three home games v wolves, Bournemouth and brentford and hopefully we get at least one draw v man city and Arsenal away. That will leave us on at least 65 points. That should leave us in a good place to secure 5th and really battle it out for fourth irrespective of what man utd and Spurs do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PeterSw Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 33 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: We basically need to win our next three home games v wolves, Bournemouth and brentford and hopefully we get at least one draw v man city and Arsenal away. That will leave us on at least 65 points. That should leave us in a good place to secure 5th and really battle it out for fourth irrespective of what man utd and Spurs do. Add in a home win against Chelsea and we'd be on at least 68. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 22 minutes ago, PeterSw said: Add in a home win against Chelsea and we'd be on at least 68. It’s likely that Chelsea’s game against Brighton will be moved to midweek so could work in our favour as it would be a few days before our game with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 International break has come at the right time for us I think. Time to take stock ready for the final 9 games. I know Man Utd are currently 9 points behind us and we have a much more favourable goal difference but I think the next 3 games are important for us in terms of sealing top 5. Man Utd - Brentford(a), Chelsea (a), Liverpool (h) Us - Wolves(h), Man City(a), Brentford(h) Spurs - Luton(h), West Ham(a), Forest(h) Difficult to predict football as the Premier League throws up surprises but I'd like to think there's a chance we can get 6 points, Spurs potentially 7. Man Utd could easily lose all three of them - possibly nick a win against Brentford. Hopefully have an even more healthy gap over them after that and would also keep us ahead of Spurs before they hit some tough fixtures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 13 minutes ago, RichW said: International break has come at the right time for us I think. Time to take stock ready for the final 9 games. I know Man Utd are currently 9 points behind us and we have a much more favourable goal difference but I think the next 3 games are important for us in terms of sealing top 5. Man Utd - Brentford(a), Chelsea (a), Liverpool (h) Us - Wolves(h), Man City(a), Brentford(h) Spurs - Luton(h), West Ham(a), Forest(h) Difficult to predict football as the Premier League throws up surprises but I'd like to think there's a chance we can get 6 points, Spurs potentially 7. Man Utd could easily lose all three of them - possibly nick a win against Brentford. Hopefully have an even more healthy gap over them after that and would also keep us ahead of Spurs before they hit some tough fixtures. Potential banana skins for Spurs, especially West Ham, they’ll raise their game for a London derby, and Spurs struggle even more than we do against a low block. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 The next 4 games are key - partly because they represent a large proportion of the remaining fixtures (), but also for the mental side of sides in the battle: Villa: Wolves (H), Man City (A), Brentford (H), Arsenal (A) (Lille tie either side of Arsenal game) Spurs: Luton (H), West Ham (A), Forest (H), Newcastle (A) Man Utd: Brentford (A), Chelsea (A), Liverpool (H), Bournemouth (A) As things stand, there are no games in hand being played during this 4 game period - so we have a 3 points lead over Spurs and 9 points over Man Utd. Obviously there's no easy game etc etc, but pessimistically (from a Villa POV, of course) I'd give each side: Villa - 4 points Spurs - 10 points Man Utd - 7 points This loosely assumes that we take 4 points from the two home games and lose the away ones. Spurs will drop 2 points at either West Ham or Newcastle (more likely than the home fixtures) and Man Utd beat both Brentford and Bournemouth away whilst taking a point elsewhere (feels unlikely, to be honest). We'd then have: Spurs - 63 points Villa - 60 points Man Utd - 54 points ...heading into the final few games. These are: Villa: Bournemouth (H), Chelsea (H), Brighton (A), Liverpool (H), Palace (A) Spurs: Man City (H), Arsenal (H), Liverpool (A), Burnley (H), Sheff Utd (A) and Chelsea (A) (to be arranged) Man Utd: Newcastle (H), Burnley (H), Palace (A), Arsenal (H), Brighton (A) and Sheff Utd (H) (to be arranged) Again, being pessimistic, let's assume we get 4 points, Spurs get 9 points and Man Utd get 12 points. End of the season table would be: Spurs - 72 points Man Utd - 66 points Villa - 64 points So whilst, yes, we may not finish 4th, I think it would need a fairly substantial shift in fortunes for both us and Man Utd for us not to finish 5th. This can obviously happen, but it just feels really unlikely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 47 minutes ago, PeterSw said: Add in a home win against Chelsea and we'd be on at least 68. We certainly need to be getting 10 points at home in the games left so winning three of them is a must. Chelsea is complicated a bit by playing them three days after the Lille second leg. Ultimately we dug out a very good point yesterday so think we can get something similar as usual at Brighton and then on the final day get what we need at Palace. Would help if Palace are already safe by then, think Forest are getting a big points deduction announced today so that will help. 70 points is realistic still and that would all but rule Man. United out of the running and ask plenty of Spurs as given what they produced on Saturday they will lose more games in the run in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I’ll be hoping hammers can beat spurs in their game on the 2nd April…in the meantime we can do the double over city and finally beat wolves XD fwiw I’ve got a feeling champions league might go to 5th place this year too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarpet Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 23 minutes ago, bobzy said: The next 4 games are key - partly because they represent a large proportion of the remaining fixtures (), but also for the mental side of sides in the battle: Villa: Wolves (H), Man City (A), Brentford (H), Arsenal (A) (Lille tie either side of Arsenal game) Spurs: Luton (H), West Ham (A), Forest (H), Newcastle (A) Man Utd: Brentford (A), Chelsea (A), Liverpool (H), Bournemouth (A) ... Villa: Bournemouth (H), Chelsea (H), Brighton (A), Liverpool (H), Palace (A) Spurs: Man City (H), Arsenal (H), Liverpool (A), Burnley (H), Sheff Utd (A) and Chelsea (A) (to be arranged) Man Utd: Newcastle (H), Burnley (H), Palace (A), Arsenal (H), Brighton (A) and Sheff Utd (H) (to be arranged) Again, being pessimistic, let's assume we get 4 points, Spurs get 9 points and Man Utd get 12 points. End of the season table would be: Spurs - 72 points Man Utd - 66 points Villa - 64 points So whilst, yes, we may not finish 4th, I think it would need a fairly substantial shift in fortunes for both us and Man Utd for us not to finish 5th. This can obviously happen, but it just feels really unlikely. Looking at those fixtures I have the table finishing as Spurs - 69 Villa - 68 Utd - 67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 35 minutes ago, bobzy said: The next 4 games are key - partly because they represent a large proportion of the remaining fixtures (), but also for the mental side of sides in the battle: Villa: Wolves (H), Man City (A), Brentford (H), Arsenal (A) (Lille tie either side of Arsenal game) Spurs: Luton (H), West Ham (A), Forest (H), Newcastle (A) Man Utd: Brentford (A), Chelsea (A), Liverpool (H), Bournemouth (A) As things stand, there are no games in hand being played during this 4 game period - so we have a 3 points lead over Spurs and 9 points over Man Utd. Obviously there's no easy game etc etc, but pessimistically (from a Villa POV, of course) I'd give each side: Villa - 4 points Spurs - 10 points Man Utd - 7 points This loosely assumes that we take 4 points from the two home games and lose the away ones. Spurs will drop 2 points at either West Ham or Newcastle (more likely than the home fixtures) and Man Utd beat both Brentford and Bournemouth away whilst taking a point elsewhere (feels unlikely, to be honest). We'd then have: Spurs - 63 points Villa - 60 points Man Utd - 54 points ...heading into the final few games. These are: Villa: Bournemouth (H), Chelsea (H), Brighton (A), Liverpool (H), Palace (A) Spurs: Man City (H), Arsenal (H), Liverpool (A), Burnley (H), Sheff Utd (A) and Chelsea (A) (to be arranged) Man Utd: Newcastle (H), Burnley (H), Palace (A), Arsenal (H), Brighton (A) and Sheff Utd (H) (to be arranged) Again, being pessimistic, let's assume we get 4 points, Spurs get 9 points and Man Utd get 12 points. End of the season table would be: Spurs - 72 points Man Utd - 66 points Villa - 64 points So whilst, yes, we may not finish 4th, I think it would need a fairly substantial shift in fortunes for both us and Man Utd for us not to finish 5th. This can obviously happen, but it just feels really unlikely. I'd guess Villa 13 points from those fixtures, Spurs 16th points and United 15 points. We end the season in 5th (and qualifying for Champs League) and as Europa Conference League Winners. Thank you very much. Same again next year.. except a different trophy obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 If we can still be fourth in the table after the next four games then we will be in a strong position, as we will have played our two toughest remaining fixtures, and Spurs will then be going ino a run of fixtures where they have to play Man City, Arsenal, and Liverpool in succession That West Ham and Newcastle can still qualify for Europe will hopefully work in our favor, both more than capable of beating Spurs at home, before West Ham and Newcastle play Spurs they play each other, a Newcastle win in that would probably be better for us, as means they will have more to play for going into the Spurs game, West Ham already have 44 points so will still be in contention for top six or seven, and they will always be motivated to beat Spurs no matter what Man Utd games are hard to predict, in isolation they could just as easily win any of the next four as they could lose any one of them, but for sure I don't think they will win them all, or lose them all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Unless Man United overturn a huge goal difference I don’t see them catching up to either us or Spurs tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 49 minutes ago, bcarpet said: Looking at those fixtures I have the table finishing as Spurs - 69 Villa - 68 Utd - 67 I think it's asking a lot for Man Utd to be getting 20 points from those games tbh. Just to lay them all out: Brentford (A), Chelsea (A), Liverpool (H), Bournemouth (A), Newcastle (H), Burnley (H), Palace (A), Arsenal (H), Brighton (A) and Sheff Utd (H). 6 wins, 2 draws and 2 losses. You'd hope (for them) that Burnley and Sheff Utd at home are bankers. Tough to really see a nailed on other 4 wins there. I guess you're looking at Brentford, Bournemouth and Palace (all away) as 3 wins. Then 1 win, 2 draws and 2 losses from Chelsea (A), Liverpool (H), Newcastle (H), Arsenal (H) and Brighton (A) - which is possible but... this Man Utd side? I don't know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, bcarpet said: Looking at those fixtures I have the table finishing as Spurs - 69 Villa - 68 Utd - 67 Who out of Liverpool and Arsenal have you got Man. United beating? I think they'll get 1 point out of that and lose at Brighton on the final day. Can they even reach 67 points if those results occur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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