tinker Posted November 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: If Tottenham continue to have there poor form, it's a possibilty we might get 4th. But we ain't beating Arsenal. City or Liverpool anytime soon, an I'm sure Tottenham will be back on it soon enough. Arsenal will beak our home form record I suspect. We run Arsenal close last season and they was lucky to get a few decisions to beat us, as for Spurs ....not sure where your enthusiasm for them stems from as over 12 months our form is far better than theirs. They have had a decent run but now they have started to pick up injuries and meeting some stronger opposition they are struggling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Is the away form so bad? We've already played Newcastle, Liverpool and Forest, none of whom drop many points at home. Lots of lower-mid table teams still to go away to as well and our away record against those sorts of teams was generally excellent last season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 minute ago, tinker said: We run Arsenal close last season and they was lucky to get a few decisions to beat us, as for Spurs ....not sure where your enthusiasm for them stems from as over 12 months our form is far better than theirs. They have had a decent run but now they have started to pick up injuries and meeting some stronger opposition they are struggling. To be honest, it's probably because I can't imagine it, Aston Villa with Champions League football, naaa, not us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, tinker said: Manure are struggling They are 4 points off us. If that's them struggling that's concerning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pinebro said: They are 4 points off us. If that's them struggling that's concerning It's not concerning, it's a reality and annoying as ****. they have deserved to lose plenty of the games they have won late recently. Yes, they could still turn it around and become good, but in my opinion, that is unlikely and yes, I have included a potential new manager bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayEm Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 It is crazy that if (a) Chelsea hold on to this lead and (b) we had beaten Forest last week, there would be 'can Villa win the league?' articles tomorrow morning. We won't, we'll do very well to finish 5th, but it's an incredible achievement to be here a year after appointing Emery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 6. Manchester United GD -3 7. Newcastle United GD +14 WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, tinker said: We run Arsenal close last season and they was lucky to get a few decisions to beat us, as for Spurs ....not sure where your enthusiasm for them stems from as over 12 months our form is far better than theirs. They have had a decent run but now they have started to pick up injuries and meeting some stronger opposition they are struggling. If Arsenal had been the midweek game first instead of Man. City I think we'd have got a draw out of that. Playing them 70 hours after Man. City is going to be an effort and we'll likely make 2-3 changes to freshen things up. Just watching Man. City and they have some big old units in their team alongside Haaland so we're really going to have to be switched on at set pieces. Feels like every season we concede when Rodri makes a near post run from a corner and no one picks him up (in the way Silva scored for Chelsea). Good news after those two games is we have Sheffield United and Burnley at home over xmas period so normal service should be resumed quickly enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Pinebro said: They are 4 points off us. If that's them struggling that's concerning Put it tihs way, they've had to win 5 of their last 6 games just to get to 6th place. Where will they be if they have a 1 win in 5 game run as I think they're heading that way in December given their general level of performance on a weekly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switters Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 It's nice to be looking at Liverpool/Arsenal/City and being within a win of them (as it stands) and it would be very nice indeed if we can get results at Spurs and Bournemouth to enable us to go into that nasty City/Arsenal double header still within touching distance of them - but the gap to teams from 6th and below who will be our rivals for 4th/5th is poss more important for our season in long run. Utd look in a false position to me. that negative GD really shows how they have been scraping wins - 7 wins which have all come against teams in bottom 10, and all by 1 goal. Maybe they will be able to build on this but form suggests quite likely that they drop off with a harder run of fixtures coming up. All the top half teams they've met so far this season, they've lost against. Expect Newcastle will stay in chase and prob their Bournemouth game a lot like our one at Forest, just a bad away day that happens sometimes. Think in all likelihood the season is going to be City/Arsenal/Pool battling for 1-3, us/Spurs/Newcastle battling for 4-6. Can't totally rule out Utd or perhaps Chelsea from joining that fight. But we have a nice number of points in the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, jayEm said: It is crazy that if (a) Chelsea hold on to this lead and (b) we had beaten Forest last week, there would be 'can Villa win the league?' articles tomorrow morning. We won't, we'll do very well to finish 5th, but it's an incredible achievement to be here a year after appointing Emery. We are where are are on merit. And have been consistently one of the best teams for 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, Pinebro said: They are 4 points off us. If that's them struggling that's concerning They're getting 1-0 wins against lower half teams. Struggled against Sheffield United a few games back. They’re not in a good place at all despite the league table. Luton had the same amount of shots on target as them at old Trafford yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 49 minutes ago, VillaChris said: It's just annoying really. People are endlessly moaning on here we're "only" 4 points off the worst Man. United team since 1974 or whenever they got relegated. Well if we played as many home matches as they had then we might've won another and so be 7 points clear of them with a far superior GD so that''s a comfortable enough lead for first third of the season. I can get in first part of the season we asked to be away more due to the pitch needing more time after the summer concerts but you really shouldn't be getting until end of December before we've played the same number of home matches. Arsenal and Chelsea are two other teams who've played 7 of their first 12 at home so far. I'm pretty sure the thing you're annoyed about with regards to the fixture computer is literally impossible to fix. Even if you had managed to get everyone to have played the same number of home games after gameweek 12 (maybe this is technically possible, not sure) then you would obviously have half the league having played one home game more by the end of gameweek 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, IrishVilla10 said: They're getting 1-0 wins against lower half teams. Struggled against Sheffield United a few games back. They’re not in a good place at all despite the league table. Luton had the same amount of shots on target as them at old Trafford yesterday. But they are winning on bad days. That's bad news if they start to hit form Edited November 12, 2023 by Pinebro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pinebro said: But they are winning on bad days. That's bad news if they start to hit form Tbf we win on bad days too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, Pinebro said: They are 4 points off us. If that's them struggling that's concerning Yeah Man U have a strange knack of somehow being shite but always picking up the right results to be " there or thereabouts " Then find a head of steam towards end of season and push, it's quite annoying lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, Pinebro said: But they are winning on bad days. That's bad news if they start to hit form They fell apart against Copenhagen, don’t create chances for hojlund and are winning games with centre backs and full backs scoring the winners. And they’ve had a fairly easy run of games. I don’t see them hitting form 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Well we don't look likely to get Champions League football, our away form still isn't good enough. If we continue averaging 2 points a game CL is nailed on The hard part is continuing to average 2 points a game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Well we don't look likely to get Champions League football, our away form still isn't good enough. Liverpool have only 2 more away points than us and we have the same as Brighton and 2 more than Newcastle Chelsea, Everton and Palace are in the top 6 for the away table and they wont be near the top 5 in the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I'm pretty sure the thing you're annoyed about with regards to the fixture computer is literally impossible to fix. Even if you had managed to get everyone to have played the same number of home games after gameweek 12 (maybe this is technically possible, not sure) then you would obviously have half the league having played one home game more by the end of gameweek 13. Just get every single team playing 6 at home and 6 away after 12. Yes I've just about grasped the concept of teams playing more H/A after 13 games (I think it might be the same after 37 aswell...) but that isn't quite my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts