StefanAVFC Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, bobzy said: I think there's a rule which says any contact on the "hand" (arm, whatever counts as handball) which directly leads to a goal is always handball. The only one which is awful for me is the Dunk one. It's an absolute stonewall penalty. He had both hands pulling his shirt! It wasn’t clear at all that it hit Mac alister’s hand at all. And for the Mitoma one, it hits his sleeve which is ok for the offside rule. Mitoma pen shout it’s blatant, steps on his foot and stops him from running, Southampton disallowed goal against us was for the same reason. we shouldn’t have a video ref that can get so many decisions wrong with slow motion replay. It’s a really worrying precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bobzy Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: It wasn’t clear at all that it hit Mac alister’s hand at all. And for the Mitoma one, it hits his sleeve which is ok for the offside rule. Mitoma pen shout it’s blatant, steps on his foot and stops him from running, Southampton disallowed goal against us was for the same reason. we shouldn’t have a video ref that can get so many decisions wrong with slow motion replay. It’s a really worrying precedent. I don't think you can be 100% on that and the linesman gave the handball. It's incredibly close. On the Mitoma pen shout, his foot gets stepped on and he goes down clutching his shin(?!). I think he's just felt contact and gone down. If the ref gave the pen initially, it doesn't get overturned. But he didn't and it doesn't get overturned. I think that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, bobzy said: I don't think you can be 100% on that and the linesman gave the handball. It's incredibly close. On the Mitoma pen shout, his foot gets stepped on and he goes down clutching his shin(?!). I think he's just felt contact and gone down. If the ref gave the pen initially, it doesn't get overturned. But he didn't and it doesn't get overturned. I think that's fine. I don’t know man. You’re pretty on your own here based on what I’ve read on twitter and the MOTD analysis - I think an apology is coming Brighton’s way tomorrow. And I say that probably wanting spurs to win as it helps us a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 8, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 8, 2023 The sheer number of **** ups in the Brighton game should warrant an investigation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: I don’t know man. You’re pretty on your own here based on what I’ve read on twitter and the MOTD analysis - I think an apology is coming Brighton’s way tomorrow. And I say that probably wanting spurs to win as it helps us a lot. I think Mitoma doesn't handball it (based on whatever the rule is this season) and I think Mitoma is possibly fouled - I'd be screaming for it if it was Villa - but I think both are almost entirely 50/50 so whatever was originally given, standing, is OK with me. The Dunk one, I just don't see how it's not a penalty. Lenglet has 2 hands pulling his shirt - it's just so blatant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, bobzy said: I think Mitoma doesn't handball it (based on whatever the rule is this season) and I think Mitoma is possibly fouled - I'd be screaming for it if it was Villa - but I think both are almost entirely 50/50 so whatever was originally given, standing, is OK with me. The Dunk one, I just don't see how it's not a penalty. Lenglet has 2 hands pulling his shirt - it's just so blatant. And Mac Allister? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted April 8, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 8, 2023 Did a Spurs scout take pictures of the ref cheating on his missus last week or something? Absolutely shocking. Absolute best case scenario that was incompetent. Brighton will quite rightly be fuming, and it raises some very uncomfortable questions about possible corruption. It needs to be thoroughly investigated. But it won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 7 hours ago, bobzy said: I think there's a rule which says any contact on the "hand" (arm, whatever counts as handball) which directly leads to a goal is always handball. There was but it's another rule that got tweaked, before they went back through a whole passage of play trying to find a hand ball (unless you were Liverpool playing man City...) whereas now I think it's just the goalscorer I actually think the rule was written to stop accidental hand balls scoring the goal and that it's another rule change that's because of villa - its to stop goals like Jay Rodriguez scored against us for baggies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I've seen it now... I think by the letter of the law the 2nd goal being chalked off is right, it's something like any contact and directly leading to a goal and his hand is the last thing the ball touches before going in so it's the right decision The first goal is his shoulder though and again have they changed the rule from the year where man City had the longer sleeves? Because they used to use the sleeve as the measure Kane also 100% gets the penalty that mitoma didn't, 100% without doubt in my mind Not seen the dunk shirt pull, sky highlights don't even show it Spurs manager standing there doing absolutely nothing before being sent off hilariously sums it up Good for the product though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 We're all Arsenal today, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, stewiek2 said: We're all Arsenal today, right? obvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, stewiek2 said: We're all Arsenal today, right? Yes. I'm going to the game today in Liverpool hospitality but will be absolutely supporting Arsenal. (In secret of course ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 07/04/2023 at 21:07, S-Platt said: From the outside looking in he has totally changed their football philosophy after dycheball. So I would say he has done an amazing job. I wouldnt be surprised if he keeps playing that way and they get smashed weekly in the top division and he is sacked by Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted April 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, Zatman said: I wouldnt be surprised if he keeps playing that way and they get smashed weekly in the top division and he is sacked by Christmas Yep not saying it will work with their players seems the type of Manager Palace will look at when Roy leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, S-Platt said: Yep not saying it will work with their players seems the type of Manager Palace will look at when Roy leaves. Kompany has bigger ambitions than managing Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Haaland, Son, Nunes. Some good goals this weekend. Just seen MOTD, be fuming if you were a Brighton fan but it puts us 6th so it suits really as you’d expect spuds will drop plenty more points before the season ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Why is everyone raving about Haalands 2nd goal? On MOTD, on 606.... It was a good goal but was just an overhead kick. Not a particularly spectacular one at that, as far as overhead kicks go. Yes it was a good goal as is any scored that way, but the fawning over ot is a bit OTT and wasn't close to being as good as SJMs at Chelsea or Berties winner at Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: Why is everyone raving about Haalands 2nd goal? On MOTD, on 606.... It was a good goal but was just an overhead kick. Not a particularly spectacular one at that, as far as overhead kicks go. Yes it was a good goal as is any scored that way, but the fawning over ot is a bit OTT and wasn't close to being as good as SJMs at Chelsea or Berties winner at Leicester. Reminds me a little of Rooney’s overhead kick that went in off of his shin. You’d think how Sky talked about it, it was the greatest goal over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 12 hours ago, bobzy said: I don't think you can be 100% on that and the linesman gave the handball. It's incredibly close. On the Mitoma pen shout, his foot gets stepped on and he goes down clutching his shin(?!). I think he's just felt contact and gone down. If the ref gave the pen initially, it doesn't get overturned. But he didn't and it doesn't get overturned. I think that's fine. Funnily enough I agree on Mitoma one. Probably a penalty but I'm sick of players getting a slight touch and flying through the air making it look dramatic. If Fernandes had done that endless people would be slagging him off on here whether Man. United got a penalty or not. The shirt tug on Dunk near the end was much clearer especially as the ball was going towards him. Was also a Lenglet handball in first half that MOTD didn't have time to look at because there were so many Brighton injustices to look at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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