AVFCDAN Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 All i hope is that we go down fighting. We've already took a point off them this season and Mings kept Haaland very quiet so who knows... Lose 3 pr 4 nil and the early good will is starting to fade already after that Leicester result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post romavillan Posted February 10, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2023 53 minutes ago, AVFCDAN said: All i hope is that we go down fighting. We've already took a point off them this season and Mings kept Haaland very quiet so who knows... Lose 3 pr 4 nil and the early good will is starting to fade already after that Leicester result. What? Surely not even the most mental mentalist from mentalandia would think losing even 5 or 6 against this lot would have any kind of impact on the goodwill for the new manager and the absolutely amazing work he's done so far? 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 06/02/2023 at 21:50, VillaChris said: Could be right. Would take two draws v Arsenal and Everton and think we can get them if we're properly on it. When did we last even get a point away to them, 2000s?! That is the significant caveat, in all predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 It feels like all the media and basically the world are going to have eyes on this one. It’ll be really interesting to see how the Man City players react to a defeat last game and to the off field revelations? Last season we were two goals up with 15 minutes to play and we still managed to lose the game. Emery will have a detailed plan and I just hope the players can execute it for the full 90 minutes. Some changes perhaps for this one - Cash or Young, Moreno or Digne, McGinn or Ramsey? Does Bailey keep his place or what about a start for Duran? Could even have Ramsey or Buendia playing in the ten position behind Watkins? I think he’ll go with the team below to start but we have some decent options: Martinez Young Konsa Mings Moreno Kamara Luiz McGinn Buendia Bailey Watkins Subs: Olsen, Cash, Digne, Chambers, Dendoncker, Ramsey, Coutinho, K Young, Duran Call me mad but I’m going to go with a smash and grab 0-1 win. UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: It feels like all the media and basically the world are going to have eyes on this one. It’ll be really interesting to see how the Man City players react to a defeat last game and to the off field revelations? Last season we were two goals up with 15 minutes to play and we still managed to lose the game. Emery will have a detailed plan and I just hope the players can execute it for the full 90 minutes. Some changes perhaps for this one - Cash or Young, Moreno or Digne, McGinn or Ramsey? Does Bailey keep his place or what about a start for Duran? Could even have Ramsey or Buendia playing in the ten position behind Watkins? I think he’ll go with the team below to start but we have some decent options: Martinez Young Konsa Mings Moreno Kamara Luiz McGinn Buendia Bailey Watkins Subs: Olsen, Cash, Digne, Chambers, Dendoncker, Ramsey, Coutinho, K Young, Duran Call me mad but I’m going to go with a smash and grab 0-1 win. UTV your mad..... There will be a Siege mentality from them. UE can have all the plans in the world.....as you say, the players have to execute it. Edited February 10, 2023 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, TRO said: your mad..... There will be a Siege mentality from them. UE can have all the plans in the world.....as you say, the players have to execute it. I know, I most likely am but you never know in football. If we can score first, then use our back six again? I’ll hold my hands up now though if we lose by five or six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I hope I'm wrong but I fear this is a bad time to play them. Sound like a broken record (in this kind of fixture) but it's so important not to concede early or I fear a possible rout. It's important not to be camped on our own penalty box but I would definitely set up with a low block and hope to hit them on the counter. Goes without saying we have to be fully on our game to have any chance of picking up any points. I'd go... Martinez Young Konsa Mings Digne McGinn Kamara Luiz Ramsey Buendia Watkins Head 4-0 Haaland (2) Foden, Gundogen Heart 1-2 Grealish 90+2, McGinn 88, Ramsey 90+5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Not missed an away match since September but would rather stick pins in my eyes than go to this so given up my tickets. Horrible scumbag fans and a club to match. Plus we always lose here no matter what. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I’m looking forward to this game, the walk back to Piccadilly Station might be fun though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 hours ago, romavillan said: Awesome, everyone should be holding a brown envelope in the away end! Quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 18 hours ago, Django_Zooms said: Do remember that Villa would have won the home match 2-1 with a Coutinho goal, but the linesman raised his flag early & wrongly for offside, against the VAR guidance that only applies for the media's favourite teams. yes. pretty much the one shot from outside the box that Coutinho has ever got on target for Villa and its gets chalked off for a wrong offside call funny enough that incident didnt make it into the 9 minute youtube video from that game that mac city put together. Its actually quite interesting to watch it and then the skysports version of the same game to get a feel for how spin works lol. tells very different stories depending on what version you watch. Martinez was incredible in it in both versions mind you! had a great game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 hours ago, romavillan said: What? Surely not even the most mental mentalist from mentalandia would think losing even 5 or 6 against this lot would have any kind of impact on the goodwill for the new manager and the absolutely amazing work he's done so far? My point being that the honey moon period may well be perceived as over and then we'll see where we really stand. In my opinion the results since Emery took over are beyond what we should expect over the course of a season so we may start to see that balance itself out in the coming weeks and i hope everyone stays onside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted February 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Robbie09 said: I’m looking forward to this game, the walk back to Piccadilly Station might be fun though!! Cloudwater and Track on the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) Much of the success against City this year has been allowing plenty of space for wide players who form their back 3 (typically Ake and Stones) to have the ball. Without the prowess of KDB and B Silva playing at their absolute prime in the half spaces, a lot of the responsibility has fallen onto Grealish and Mahrez to create without overlaps. Sometimes to good effect but a lot of the time not. Where they are hurting the most is that Haaland is pretty shit with his back to goal or playing with a defender on his back. He's a great straight line player and movement in the box plus that poacher's instinct is elite (see goal against us peeling off on Konsa). But teams have kinda figured out that if you can keep him from turning, then he's not this lethal threat that he was earlier in the season. The prem has a way of figuring out players. I would not be surprised at all to see Unai go back to either the 622 or the 631 that used against Brighton at times. And depending on how the match goes - we could see a lot of Duran. Ollie and Bailey are going to put in a lot of graft pressing but also taking on a lot of solo runs on the counter. Edited February 10, 2023 by DJBOB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, romavillan said: What? Surely not even the most mental mentalist from mentalandia would think losing even 5 or 6 against this lot would have any kind of impact on the goodwill for the new manager and the absolutely amazing work he's done so far? What he’s saying is we have to compete against these types of teams even if we lose. Next season we will be looking to progress and we can’t keep saying because it’s City (or whoever) we can’t go out and win and should just roll over, especially when we drop points to teams like wolves and Leicester. And it’s not like City are unbeatable if you get it right, as Brentford and even Botteringham Lolspurs have shown. If we lose by more than two or three the likelihood is we’ve shot ourselves in the foot more than once probably by playing out from the back and that will be on Emery. He has to get the balance right and keep us in the game as long as possible if we’re to potentially beat City, not throw the game in the first half. Our first half performances against Wolves, Leeds and Leicester were all very poor, we have to start better on Sunday. Edited February 10, 2023 by Leeroy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leeroy said: What he’s saying is we have to compete against these types of teams even if we lose. Next season we will be looking to progress and we can’t keep saying because it’s City (or whoever) we can’t go out and win and should just roll over, especially when we drop points to teams like wolves and Leicester. And it’s not like City are unbeatable if you get it right, as Brentford and even Botteringham Lolspurs have shown. If we lose by more than two or three the likelihood is we’ve shot ourselves in the foot more than once probably by playing out from the back and that will be on Emery. He has to get the balance right and keep us in the game as long as possible if we’re to potentially beat City, not throw the game in the first half. Our first half performances against Wolves, Leeds and Leicester were all very poor, we have to start better on Sunday. Not for me no. City have the players to completely play us off the park regardless of how we play. If we make a load of mistakes it will be something Emery will learn from, it won't be putting pressure on him or any other sort of vague threatening language you might want to use. What he *needs* to do is continue the good work he's doing progressing the players, learning about the squad at the start of what we hope is a long and successful journey to get to where we want to be in the future. For my money only an idiot like the one's booing at half time against Leicester would be talking up pressure on Emery if we lose even the next three on the bounce. What's more important long term is that he uses the time between now and the summer to fully understand who in the squad are going to be the basis of his project here at Villa. Lose 3,4,5,6 against City away has little to zero influence on me as to whether he is suitable as the manager to take us forward. Might be annoying, but the future prize is worth way more than any short term concern. Yes we want as much prize money at the end of the season as possible, but only a **** loon would have been looking at this fixture as anything other than a free hit for whoever is in charge in terms of trying to get points on the board. Edited February 10, 2023 by romavillan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, romavillan said: Not for me no. City have the players to completely play us off the park regardless of how we play. If we make a load of mistakes it will be something Emery will learn from, it won't be putting pressure on him or any other sort of vague threatening language you might want to use. What he *needs* to do is continue the good work he's doing progressing the players, learning about the squad at the start of what we hope is a long and successful journey to get to where we want to be in the future. For my money only an idiot like the one's booing at half time against Leicester would be talking up pressure on Emery if we lose even the next three on the bounce. What's more important long term is that he uses the time between now and the summer to fully understand who in the squad are going to be the basis of his project here at Villa. Lose 3,4,5,6 against City away has little to zero influence on me as to whether he is suitable as the manager to take us forward. Might be annoying, but the future prize is worth way more than any short term concern. Yes we want as much prize money at the end of the season as possible, but only a **** loon would have been looking at this fixture as anything other than a free hit for whoever is in charge in terms of trying to get points on the board. You've completely lost me here, I didn't use any threatening language or say Emery was under pressure. He's the best manager we could have got but it doesn't mean fans won't offer constructive criticism if it's just that which it is. Losing the next three would be a big concern though, given that would be four defeats in a row and the sorts of runs Gerrard and Smith used to go on. I'm hoping that it doesn't happen as Emery should be far better than either of those two. And although we probably will lose to City, we are capable of getting something off Arsenal at home particularly as they have City three days before and we should be capable of winning at Everton even if they do have Dyche in charge now. Emery definitely shouldn't have to abandon his principles but we are conceding too many goals from playing out from the back and there needs to be at least some moderation of that particularly against the better teams who will press relentlessly. City will play a high line so the way to expose that is by exploiting the space in behind them with pace not by playing a slow game passing out from the back where they will have men surrounding our players. You might not care if we lose or if we get spanked but I do and I would like us to end the season well so we are in a position for players to want to come here as it looks to me like Emery might have a decent amount of money to spend in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 After last week's fiasco I can't see Villa getting anything from the game, and just hope they don't don't do too much damage to their goal difference. It will be interesting to see if City are distracted by their legal problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2-0 Villa win. Duran off the bench then as Citeh chase hit on the break and Gresford shin splints shatter and the debris sends the ball into his own net. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted February 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2023 We are getting at least one point from this.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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