Django_Zooms Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: Well, I’ve asked you a sensible question about this England team yet you seem to only wish to comment on “people”. Weird flex but ok. Well done. England are doing well, yet face huge challenges ahead. Any manager and any team would find France & Spain & Brazil formidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, foreveryoung said: That ain't saying much now is it! Rice I not £100 million that's for sure. Who cares about price tag? He’s a great player. He’s easily good enough to be playing for a champions league club. And will be sooner or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: No just in general. The reaction to not hating Southgate seems to be “oh so you think he’s a great manager then?!” oh so you think he’s a great manager then?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, Django_Zooms said: Well done. England are doing well, yet face huge challenges ahead. Any manager and any team would find France & Spain & Brazil formidable. What about bottling the Euro final. Southgates tactics lost us that. Defensive play from 20 minutes 1-0 up. Let a 38 year old Italian defender run the show! Southgate lost us the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Django_Zooms said: Well done. England are doing well, yet face huge challenges ahead. Any manager and any team would find France & Spain & Brazil formidable. I asked you what you think of this England team on paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Is it possible for former posters to come back with a new username? Edited December 4, 2022 by sidcow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, foreveryoung said: What about bottling the Euro final. Southgates tactics lost us that. Defensive play from 20 minutes 1-0 up. Let a 38 year old Italian defender run the show! Southgate lost us the final. You mean, the first Euros final that any England team ever reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Any other Country, and Grealish is in the first 11. It was ever thus with England. Even Gascoigne wasn't trusted at times, Hoddle and Hiudson the same. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, bobzy said: I asked you what you think of this England team on paper Excellent prospects. Apologies for any complexity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Unbeaten in knockout games in 90 minutes. Shit manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted December 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2022 The test starts now let's be honest we have played against championship players and has beens in the main. We have the players to cause France issues and they have the pace to cause us issues mainly the stand out player in the tournament. Saturday night I will be out on the lash watching it with the boys so win or lose I will have a good night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, sheepyvillian said: Any other Country, and Grealish is in the first 11. It was ever thus with England. Even Gascoigne wasn't trusted at times, Hoddle and Hiudson the same. It’s a shame really. I think he should be starting. But rightly or wrongly I think Southgate has cemented him as his impact sub. Which is an effective role for him, just sells him short imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizzzle Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Pleased with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: What about bottling the Euro final. Southgates tactics lost us that. Defensive play from 20 minutes 1-0 up. Let a 38 year old Italian defender run the show! Southgate lost us the final. It makes me laugh when people talk about reaching this and that. What exactly have we won? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, sheepyvillian said: It makes me laugh when people talk about reaching this and that. What exactly have we won? How many previous managers reached this and that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Django_Zooms said: Excellent prospects. Apologies for any complexity. No complexity, you just didn’t answer the question and rambled on about “tests to come”. I think our national side is probably… third best in the world, very close between the top three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: So do I. We'll do really well with a manager that isn't totally shit. Looking forward to it. Southgate has many flaws but the players generally love playing for him. Sometimes at international level that's half the battle as we've seen with many England squads at previous tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, sheepyvillian said: It makes me laugh when people talk about reaching this and that. What exactly have we won? Gerrard has won more than Southgate, does that make him a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Southgate is not a great manager but then very few international managers actually are, it’s a bit of a niche roll for a manager. International football is about getting a bunch of players who are essentially strangers to play as some sort of team while only seeing each other every few months. Southgate has managed to get England playing to a level where they beat teams they ‘should’ be beating on paper, and that’s not something you can say for many of his recent predecessors. However his tactics hardly inspire confidence and as far as I can recall he’s never had England ‘punching above their weight’ and winning matches you’d have thought they were going to lose. France next week will be another one if those matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Gerrard has won more than Southgate, does that make him a genius. When his judgment as really mattered, he's failed. Columbia and Italy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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