nick76 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, messi11 said: Based on Value on the transfer (Thuram at 8-15 mil vs Abraham at £45Million) Based on form (This season and career) Based on potential One is at the World Cup with France, One is watching it on the TV. Value - I agree although given his contract situation he’ll want a far bigger signing on fee and wages than Tammy so the difference will be hugely reduced for the total value. Based on form - this season he’s done really well….career is debatable when comparing Potential - debatable Risk - Tammy wins this hands down Not even going to discuss about international picking, we’ve known for decades being picked for country doesn’t always mean much. Playing for France is incredible for him personally but as an assessment to buy him or not for us it wouldn’t be a determining factor. As for Tammy not being picked, that’s down to Southgate. He could’ve easily picked Tammy instead of Wilson, just like Thuram was picked in place of other strikers. I think Thuram is a great potential player but we are talking about comparison here not whether either are very good, they both are very good players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, messi11 said: Matheus Cunha would be a depressing signing. A 1 in 4.587 striker if only it were 1 in 4, and not 1 in 4.587..... that .587 just makes all the difference im afraid.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, messi11 said: What makes you think Tammy would be a good signing? Nostalgia? 26 goals in 89 PL appearances. I thought we wanted to get away from the 1 in 4 strikers? That’s not 1 in 4 it’s 1 in 3.4 appearances and seeing as he was a sub a lot, it’s better looking at minutes of 1 in every 191 minutes and if you exclude him being 20 years old at Swansea and focus on his Chelsea time it’s 1 every 155 minutes which is pretty impressive at 22 and 23 years old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, MaVilla said: if only it were 1 in 4, and not 1 in 4.587..... that .587 just makes all the difference im afraid.... Its like 1 in 4.6 games which rounded up is 1 in 5 games. Not good enough for Aston Villa. I hope this is untrue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, nick76 said: That’s not 1 in 4 it’s 1 in 3.4 appearances and seeing as he was a sub a lot, it’s better looking at minutes of 1 in every 191 minutes and if you exclude him being 20 years old at Swansea and focus on his Chelsea time it’s 1 every 155 minutes which is pretty impressive at 22 and 23 years old. 1 in 3.42307692308 to be exact Rather Tammy than the 1 in 4.587 Matheus Cunha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Just now, messi11 said: 1 in 3.42307692308 to be exact Rather Tammy than the 1 in 4.587 Matheus Cunha I don’t care who Emery buys, I just think we need a new striker. I worry Thuram has rarely played as a striker or in the PL and I worry about Tammy’s cost. Whoever Emery wants I’m 100% behind and just want them to be a success but I find it hard to distinguish between Tammy and Thuram because they are different type of players and have very different pros and cons so I don’t see how anybody can say one is better than the other. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 32 minutes ago, messi11 said: 1 in 3.42307692308 to be exact Rather Tammy than the 1 in 4.587 Matheus Cunha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rustibrooks Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 It's worth mentioning (not that it really matters much) but Cunha and Dougie are quite close I'm sure. Wouldn't be a bad signing for one of the attacking mid/winger positions depending on the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woody1000 Posted December 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2022 I’m at that point of total faith in King Unai that I’m happy with whoever he wants to sign. If it’s who he wants, then it’s who I want. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 54 minutes ago, Woody1000 said: I’m at that point of total faith in King Unai that I’m happy with whoever he wants to sign. If it’s who he wants, then it’s who I want. Yep, exactly my thinking. He has the pedigree, he has to be allowed and be backed on building what he wants. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) with the names linked, ie: Cunha, Muriqi, Thuram, if its a true(ish) reflection of the type of player Emery is after, its clear he wants a mix of strength, pace, technical ability, height, power etc. more than happy with that, would make us a nightmare to play against on the break, but also in the air/hold up etc, would also make teams much more wary of pushing up against us generally. Same could be said for previous links, like Sarr & Zaha etc. Edited December 1, 2022 by MaVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Zatman said: Tammy is a lazy link but would be a terrible signing. Watkins is probably a better player Tammy is certainly no better than Ollie. Edited December 1, 2022 by Made In Aston 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 29/11/2022 at 22:25, messi11 said: 2 questions for you- 1) Which striker 'cuts it' consistency in World Football? 2) And which Striker cuts it consistency that Villa can realistically attract? We are in no position in the football pyramid to be signing top league consistent strikers. We have to discover or make a player consistent like we did with BentekeThuram fits the mold, plus he's found his consistency this season Im not asking for anything spectacular in terms of record with consistency but he has not proven much in his previous couple of seasons so we may sign a player who has only been playing good for the last 12 months and yes its extremely hard to find consistency i agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, messi11 said: Matheus Cunha would be a depressing signing. A 1 in 4.587 striker I probably agree it reminds me of a west ham signing that flops, if he had a 1 in 3.5 record (bearing in mind he’s mostly coming off the bench) then id be more interested in pursuing it, Fifa 23 have him at 81 OVR but he looks like a 78 OVR if that means much to anyone here , id seen players measured by this and just thought id bring it up as he must have some serious attributes other than goals to have him at that level. Edited December 1, 2022 by RicRic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 Pau Torres starting for Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Huge fan of Matheus Cunha. I'm sure he's been mentioned loads on here going back to promotion. Could play up front or in one of the wide roles for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 hours ago, messi11 said: Matheus Cunha would be a depressing signing. A 1 in 4.587 striker What’s firmino’s record like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Zatman said: Tammy is a lazy link but would be a terrible signing. Watkins is probably a better player Watkins is a better player if you think scoring goals isnt important. Tammy dont become a bad player over night. I eprsonalky think he is A) homesick anyone would want to leave that clown mourinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, messi11 said: Pau Torres starting for Spain. How is he looking? Been watching Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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