mjmooney Posted April 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: I’d snap your hand off for a conference league place if you gave it to me now. Considering where we’ve come from. It would be a nice introduction for us back into European competition, get a group that’s not too taxing and doesn’t stretch us whilst getting used to playing Thursday - Sunday. Get experience, retain most of our squad, add to it obviously and kick on then the next season. I wouldn’t want a situation where we qualify for the champions league, can’t handle it and are in the bottom half of the PL next season. Totally agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: I’d snap your hand off for a conference league place if you gave it to me now. Considering where we’ve come from. It would be a nice introduction for us back into European competition, get a group that’s not too taxing and doesn’t stretch us whilst getting used to playing Thursday - Sunday. Get experience, retain most of our squad, add to it obviously and kick on then the next season. I wouldn’t want a situation where we qualify for the champions league, can’t handle it and are in the bottom half of the PL next season. whaaat, no way! You'd rather have a conference league spot than a Champions League spot. That's insane. Champions League means we get an extra £60-100 million, can attract the best players, and Emery is good at these cup competitions. We might also not get another chance to get into the CL as other teams around us also improve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I'm on the hype train, I think we can get Europa. I'd dream for CL but Newcastle and United just have too many points on the board already. The only hope is people still think Spurs could get CL and we are 3 points behind and I believe we'll finish above them. I think Brighton are very good but when they play 6 games in 2 weeks that'll be just too much for them. That is also a must win game for us, we have to beat them to get Europe. So if we win that they have one less game in hand and we have another 3 points. Starts to look realistic. My only gripe about CL is Chelsea and Liverpool won't be this shit next year. Shame Gerrard couldn't manage a few draws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, Lord Willard said: I'm on the hype train, I think we can get Europa. I'd dream for CL but Newcastle and United just have too many points on the board already. The only hope is people still think Spurs could get CL and we are 3 points behind and I believe we'll finish above them. I think Brighton are very good but when they play 6 games in 2 weeks that'll be just too much for them. That is also a must win game for us, we have to beat them to get Europe. So if we win that they have one less game in hand and we have another 3 points. Starts to look realistic. My only gripe about CL is Chelsea and Liverpool won't be this shit next year. Shame Gerrard couldn't manage a few draws Newcastle is such a mediocre side. It's outrageous that they are 4th. Teams are clearly showing them far too much respect when playing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, ender4 said: whaaat, no way! You'd rather have a conference league spot than a Champions League spot. That's insane. Champions League means we get an extra £60-100 million, can attract the best players, and Emery is good at these cup competitions. We might also not get another chance to get into the CL as other teams around us also improve. We could win the conference league. That would put us in the Europa League, in that then we are in the Champions League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pinebro said: 8th?? We have massive momentum. I have my sights on Newcastle and 4th. 6 points is absolutely doable. The 6 points isn't the issue. I get optimism and all that, but I don't see how people can blatantly ignore the clubs around us with games in hand. lol Realistically, we need to keep winning just to stay in 6th ffs, and even then, we could still win and not finish 6th. Brighton just need a draw to leapfrog us on GD with a game in hand for example. We'd have to win near all our remaining games to have a chance of finishing 4th. Let's be sensible, even as we break down barriers week by week. I feel this is why some people often end up dissappointed. Edited April 17, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I don't remember if it was on here, but I saw somebody make the point that we always score at least one goal in every game. So, to beat us, the opposition have to score twice against The Best Goalkeeper In The World. Yeah we've scored in every single game since Emery has come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Realistically, we need to keep winning just to stay in 6th ffs, and even then, we could still win and not finish 6th. We'd have to win near all our remaining games to have a chance of finishing 4th. Yep, all the teams around us win most games, so we have to do even better than that just to finish 6th. Probably need to win 5 out of the 7 games just to finish 6th. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Could boil down to the last game v Brighton to get 6th or 7th. I think we would have all been delighted with that when Emery came on board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: The 6 points isn't the issue. I get optimism and all that, but I don't see how people can blatantly ignore the clubs around us with games in hand. lol Realistically, we need to keep winning just to stay in 6th ffs, and even then, we could still win and not finish 6th. Brighton just need a draw to leapfrog us on GD with a game in hand for example. We'd have to win near all our remaining games to have a chance of finishing 4th. Let's be sensible, even as we break down barriers week by week. I feel this is why some people often end up dissappointed. Yep, is going to be incredibly difficult just to stay where we are, all we can do is keep winning but Brighton and Liverpool are a real threat, we can only hope one of them **** up in the next few weeks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Couple of weeks ago there were posts that people getting carried away talking about Europe spot yet here we are True but top 4 is a completely different level. Newcastle and Man Utd will not drop enough points for Villa to get in just like Villa won’t win every game this season. I can already sense the disappointment IF Villa don’t make Europe when I think everybody would have took 8th when the club was sitting 11th for ages. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, Rodders said: We have a first class manager and wealthy owners. If we did amazingly get top 4 they would ensure we were ready, of that I'd have no doubt. Would be a hell of a turnover needed in incomings and outgoings to get ready to play champions league football and cope with the PL as well. We’ve shown in the past 5-6 years, we struggle to move people on. No doubt we’d have the wealth to bring players in but you never always get who you want - not even close to it. Of course id love us to finish 4th but im saying the conference league wouldn’t be bad either and we can build a lot more practically without it ruining our league form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Not sure we can point to the soft west ham penalty as costing us two points over the recent run. There's an element of had that not happened we might not have then had the 5 wins in a row. Maybe Emery has been able to use that injustice as a means to get more out the players "let's not sit back and leave it in the hands of the officials, let's push on and make it irrelevant what dodgy decisions go against us". I don't doubt for one second that he'd have still be motivating the players whatever happened, but it's not necessarily the back and white bad thing to happen to us in this run it might appear to be. As for continuing it, Brentford are in terrible form and we should be favourites. Even if they have only lost twice at home all season. Newcastle had only lost 3 games anywhere all season, and look how they ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Imagine being worried about playing Brentford and Fulham. Get they are having a good season but there is no way we should fear them. We have a better manager and better players. The only thing concerning me with Brentford is our away form against them. 4 losses in a row, should have beaten them last season under Gerrard - pretty sure they scored with 2 shots on target? Frustrating. If Villa do beat Brentford and Fulham then I don't see Villa finishing out top 7. It be a case of whether its Europa or Conference League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, RichW said: The only thing concerning me with Brentford is our away form against them. 4 losses in a row, should have beaten them last season under Gerrard - pretty sure they scored with 2 shots on target? Frustrating. If Villa do beat Brentford and Fulham then I don't see Villa finishing out top 7. It be a case of whether its Europa or Conference League. I wouldn't worry about our away form against them under previous managers, will have no bearing on how we play against them now under Emery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Hopefully teams around us will pick up more injuries, Brighton had 2 last game forward and cb, both out 2 weeks, puts more stress on the rest with so many games still to play in a short time. Injuries and suspensions will be our best friend as long as we keep winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: The 6 points isn't the issue. I get optimism and all that, but I don't see how people can blatantly ignore the clubs around us with games in hand. lol Realistically, we need to keep winning just to stay in 6th ffs, and even then, we could still win and not finish 6th. Brighton just need a draw to leapfrog us on GD with a game in hand for example. We'd have to win near all our remaining games to have a chance of finishing 4th. Let's be sensible, even as we break down barriers week by week. I feel this is why some people often end up dissappointed. Points on board over games in hand every day of the week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieVillan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Rodders said: We need to win all 7 games for top 4 really, but the way we're going... why not, But I can't see us dropping more than 6 or 7 points max. Just feels like we're in a good space. 2 draws, maybe a defeat, but I know I'm getting ahead of myself. Brighton are the only side in similarly great form. Newcastle were poor, but they have a few points cushion, likewise, United, lwith their injuries, but a 9 point cushion, Spurs, all over the place with a caretaker manager, Liverpool unpredictable, will obviously pick up wins, but they are going to drop points unexpectedly at least a couple of times. We don’t need to win all 7 games, we need to get within touching distance of 4th, and then we just need to match the results of other teams and creep a point above them. We do need results to go our way, but if we can win the next 2 games and Newcastle and Spurs don’t pick up any more than 3 points each from their next 2 games (bearing in mind they play eachother), then with 5 games to go we are in with a shout. I would say if we get to that stage, while we don’t need to necessarily win every game, we probably can’t afford to lose ground in any particular match week, so we would need to match or better Newcastle and Spurs’s results and hope they both slip up at least once more… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieVillan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Johnnyp said: I’d snap your hand off for a conference league place if you gave it to me now. Considering where we’ve come from. It would be a nice introduction for us back into European competition, get a group that’s not too taxing and doesn’t stretch us whilst getting used to playing Thursday - Sunday. Get experience, retain most of our squad, add to it obviously and kick on then the next season. I wouldn’t want a situation where we qualify for the champions league, can’t handle it and are in the bottom half of the PL next season. I get this, but I don’t think a conference league place will be enough to keep all our best players. We are definitely on the radar of the teams above now as a threat, and they will be looking to weaken us by cherry picking our best players in the summer (think Yorke, Delph, Milner, Barry). We may be in a better position to deal with that with our current manager and ambitious owners, and also with an ability to recruitment adequate replacements (as Brighton have done in recent years), but we don’t know that just yet. I would probably take 5th or 6th if offered it now, but not 7th or 8th… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, zab6359 said: Out of interest when was the last time we won 6 games in a row in the PL? Never. I don’t think we’d won 5 until the other day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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