Rolta Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, est1874 said: Disingenuous. He had poor games and moments last season also. He's a good player. Not world class. Disingenuous. Moments last season doesn't equal a dip in form! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, est1874 said: That's how poorly run clubs operate, yes. The likes of Brighton manage to sell their best players every season and still purchase well and improve overall, because their network is excellent. They are considerably better than us despite being smaller, so actually there are clubs who can say Thank You Very Much for huge money and reinvest it very wisely. We're just not traditionally one of them. But what's the point in having Monchi the Messiah at the helm as director if we can't unearth a few gems? Might as well be Delphinho123 buying players if we don't trust the process. McGinn, Tielemans, Ramsey, Luiz and Kamara are every bit as good value as any signing that Brighton have made. The only difference is that we haven't had to sell them. Add in Jack, Chuck and Ramsey Jn who we've sold for getting on for £140m and tell me that we're **** at recruitment / developing players. We don't hear about all the dross that Brighton sell / allow to leave for free or no money because they aren't good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, est1874 said: Disingenuous. He had poor games and moments last season also. So has every single player ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: If Liverpool want him they’d have to pay in excess of 60m. They aren’t going to do that. So let’s move on. Exactly. Its a nothing link. We will want silly money for him and liverpool wont pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Getting ridiculous up in here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, bobzy said: So has every single player ever. Agreed, so he can be both mostly excellent and sometimes criticised for a poor showing, or not? Is he exempt? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lerner's Driver Posted August 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Getting ridiculous up in here... So, take off all your clothes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, Lerner's Driver said: Agreed, so he can be both mostly excellent and sometimes criticised for a poor showing, or not? Is he exempt? He's exempt. Nobody is allowed to be criticised on here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, est1874 said: He's exempt. Nobody is allowed to be criticised on here. Guy had a bad game on Saturday. Happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 46 minutes ago, Lerner's Driver said: Agreed, so he can be both mostly excellent and sometimes criticised for a poor showing, or not? Is he exempt? Only players we don't like can be criticised for poor showings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Only players we don't like can be criticised for poor showings. I think we should stick to the no criticism idea.. After all negativity just brings everyone down Mannn. Peace! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Only players we don't like can be criticised for poor showings. Or maybe we have more patience with players who are generally very good, rather than Bailey (as I know that's who you're referencing here), who is generally awful and plays like he has no footballing brain whatsoever? Edited August 17, 2023 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 WTF is going on in this thread? We are not selling Kamara. (Let’s hope this is not famous last words…) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Only players we don't like can be criticised for poor showings. Nothing wrong with fair criticism. It's this bizarre clamour to sell off the spine of our team for basically no valid reason that perplexes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2023 This seems as fitting a thread as I can find..... I do love VT That is all .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, briny_ear said: WTF is going on in this thread? We are not selling Kamara. There was similar hysteria in the Martinez thread a few months back too where a few posters needed calming and reassured he was going nowhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, lexicon said: Nothing wrong with fair criticism. It's this bizarre clamour to sell off the spine of our team for basically no valid reason that perplexes me. 'Bizarre clamour' sounds really extreme! Have you come across large numbers of people desperate to sell our best players on here? You are right, that would be really odd. Are you sure that is happening, or have you just exaggerated a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lerner's Driver said: 'Bizarre clamour' sounds really extreme! Have you come across large numbers of people desperate to sell our best players on here? You are right, that would be really odd. Are you sure that is happening, or have you just exaggerated a bit? Thankfully it's not large, as it's a completely insane thing to do, but there have been those suggesting that we sell these players, yes: Emi, Kamara, Luiz, Watkins etc. Absolutely mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lerner's Driver said: Agreed, so he can be both mostly excellent and sometimes criticised for a poor showing, or not? Is he exempt? Of course you can criticise him, but if you say weird things like his form has dipped lately based on a sample size of one game you're going to have people question your logic to be fair. Edited August 17, 2023 by Rolta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Lerner's Driver said: Have you come across large numbers of people desperate to sell our best players on here? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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