theboyangel Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Just now, tomav84 said: it'll come down to the fact that he's already signed a contract specifying that he becomes a villa player for 30m if we wish to exercise that clause Don’t be too sure, other clubs may be willing to match our deal or improve it. Barca will sell to the highest (unless Coutinho really wants to sign for us!) I really hope he stays - he oozes class 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted March 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2022 Just now, theboyangel said: Don’t be too sure, other clubs may be willing to match our deal or improve it. Barca will sell to the highest (unless Coutinho really wants to sign for us!) I really hope he stays - he oozes class the deal is already done. otherwise there is zero point in mentioning 'option to buy' clause. if the scenario you mention is true, then that's the case with every single loan. it's not just you, but this is what people dont get. an option to buy means he is our player if we want him. if spurs or whoever offer 60m then it doesnt matter. he joins us for 30m. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, tomav84 said: the deal is already done. otherwise there is zero point in mentioning 'option to buy' clause. if the scenario you mention is true, then that's the case with every single loan. it's not just you, but this is what people dont get. an option to buy means he is our player if we want him. if spurs or whoever offer 60m then it doesnt matter. he joins us for 30m. How do you know this to the point it's fact? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, tomav84 said: it'll come down to the fact that he's already signed a contract specifying that he becomes a villa player for 30m if we wish to exercise that clause I really and truly hope you’re right… because if you are, it means that either: a) Phil’s agent is a moron or, ideally b) Phil saw something so unique, amazing and fantastic in Gerrards vision for the club that he wants to be a part of it for the foreseeable future, regardless of what any other club could offer him financially or professionally 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted March 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2022 Just now, Don_Simon said: How do you know this to the point it's fact? because we mentioned 'option to buy' in the official statement when we signed him what do you think this statement means if someone can buy him if they just offer more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, tomav84 said: the deal is already done. otherwise there is zero point in mentioning 'option to buy' clause. if the scenario you mention is true, then that's the case with every single loan. it's not just you, but this is what people dont get. an option to buy means he is our player if we want him. if spurs or whoever offer 60m then it doesnt matter. he joins us for 30m. Is it an agreed thing with the player though. It could give us an agreed price if we choose to make an offer, I'm not sure it means that Coutinho has to agree a contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 My goodness he is a wonderful footballer. I have no idea how long we will have him but I suspect he will be here for a while yet. Let’s just enjoy the ride. Lovely, lovely player. He makes everything look so easy probably because for him, it’s a piece of cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, tomav84 said: the deal is already done. otherwise there is zero point in mentioning 'option to buy' clause. if the scenario you mention is true, then that's the case with every single loan. it's not just you, but this is what people dont get. an option to buy means he is our player if we want him. if spurs or whoever offer 60m then it doesnt matter. he joins us for 30m. Actually, let me ask in another way: If Villa don't buy Coutinho on a permanent deal this summer, it's because Villa didn't want to sign him. There is absolutely no option for Coutinho to reject the move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted March 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2022 Just now, Don_Simon said: Actually, let me ask in another way: If Villa don't buy Coutinho on a permanent deal this summer, it's because Villa didn't want to sign him. There is absolutely no option for Coutinho to reject the move? he's already accepted the theoretical move when he signed the contract in january. wages, contract length etc would have been agreed then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, tomav84 said: because we mentioned 'option to buy' in the official statement when we signed him what do you think this statement means if someone can buy him if they just offer more? I thought it meant we had a deal agreed with Barca, but we would then need to negotiate a contract with the player. Your interpretation means his permanent contract is already agreed - which I would love to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 It's a forgone conclusion we sign him. Loan with first option to buy regardless of player is sound business. He's next level. Just a different gravy from anything else I've seen before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Just now, tomav84 said: because we mentioned 'option to buy' in the official statement when we signed him what do you think this statement means if someone can buy him if they just offer more? 100% - it was a very short statement that specified the option to buy. Only way he goes elsewhere is if his head is turned financially - and he does not agree to join Villa, but I think he may already have signed that right away too. We will have to see, but it would take some monumental event or **** up for this guy not to sign in 12 or so games time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jareth said: 100% - it was a very short statement that specified the option to buy. Only way he goes elsewhere is if his head is turned financially - and he does not agree to join Villa, but I think he may already have signed that right away too. We will have to see, but it would take some monumental event or **** up for this guy not to sign in 12 or so games time The only thing stopping him signing for Villa, is Villa deciding not to sign him. Apparently. Regardless, he's **** brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 My understanding of an option to buy is the clubs have an agreement over a future fee but then it’ll be down to us and Coutinho to agree a contract. As it stands, Barca are paying some of his wages on his current contract, we’re paying a bit and Coutinho has waived some to make the loan happen. A full contract won’t be easy to resolve unless Coutinho is something special and not all about the money like most footballers. im not being negative just think it’s not as easy as some think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KMitch Posted March 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2022 I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I still can't believe Coutinho is playing for Aston Villa. He's one of the best players in the world... Amazing performance from him today. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, theboyangel said: My understanding of an option to buy is the clubs have an agreement over a future fee but then it’ll be down to us and Coutinho to agree a contract. As it stands, Barca are paying some of his wages on his current contract, we’re paying a bit and Coutinho has waived some to make the loan happen. A full contract won’t be easy to resolve unless Coutinho is something special and not all about the money like most footballers. im not being negative just think it’s not as easy as some think. The odds are, the way world works these days unfortunately, that it will be a pain up the arse procedure to get him signed. I hope you are wrong and it's all plain sailing but nothing is these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, theboyangel said: My understanding of an option to buy is the clubs have an agreement over a future fee but then it’ll be down to us and Coutinho to agree a contract. As it stands, Barca are paying some of his wages on his current contract, we’re paying a bit and Coutinho has waived some to make the loan happen. A full contract won’t be easy to resolve unless Coutinho is something special and not all about the money like most footballers. im not being negative just think it’s not as easy as some think. Thisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 minute ago, KMitch said: I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I still can't believe Coutinho is playing for Aston Villa. He's one of the best players in the world... Amazing performance from him today. Mad innit? We have gone from losing our talisman/“The One” and sacking our fan favourite “One of us” manager after a shit run of results… To having a relatively rookie manager (who was an incredibly successful and highly respected player) take over and bring in his mate from Barcelona who just so happened to be one of the best (and most expensive) players on the planet… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted March 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2022 The one downside of Coutinho playing great is the pages of despair as people talk about him leaving for a better club or trying to analyse the 'option to buy' wording. Just enjoy him for the remainder of the season! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 And to think Barca wanted it to be an obligation to buy……… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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