rodders0223 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Talldarkandransome said: Not sure what you're getting at there, are you suggesting he's not suitable He'd be suitable if it was 1989 and we was Wimbledon but I think their philosophy and thinking was more nuanced and modern than Stevie run through brick walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Winning percentages, points per game, league table since the start of his reign. He's shit. End of. His football is shit his selections are shit his tactics are shit his motivating is shit his man management is shit and his soundbites are shit. So you are not a fan then of Stevie? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, The Fun Factory said: So you are not a fan then of Stevie? I think that's what they're hinting at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Unless I've added it up incorrectly, Gerrard has managed 38 league games with us (Inc the 3 games this season) and has accumulated 38 pts. 1pt per game, which is borderline relegation form. As some people have stated, he is on a downward trajectory as he was averaging a higher pts per game figure earlier in his tenure. If he had joined this summer and achieved 38pts by the end of this season he would be sacked no doubt. He definitely didn't manage us for 35 league games last season, that would have required Smith to have been sacked after 3 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: So you are not a fan then of Stevie? Big fan. He's in my top 3 managers alongside Megson, Mcleish and Mike Bassett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Unless I've added it up incorrectly, Gerrard has managed 38 league games with us (Inc the 3 games this season) and has accumulated 38 pts. 1pt per game, which is borderline relegation form. As some people have stated, he is on a downward trajectory as he was averaging a higher pts per game figure earlier in his tenure. I believe it's 30 league games, which makes the average a bit better but far from great. As others have said it's more about the trajectory (and the fact that we look lost). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Unless I've added it up incorrectly, Gerrard has managed 38 league games with us (Inc the 3 games this season) and has accumulated 38 pts. 1pt per game, which is borderline relegation form. As some people have stated, he is on a downward trajectory as he was averaging a higher pts per game figure earlier in his tenure. If he had joined this summer and achieved 38pts by the end of this season he would be sacked no doubt. He’s managed 31 games averaging 1.23 ppm according to Transfer Market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, rodders0223 said: Big fan. He's in my top 3 managers alongside Megson, Mcleish and Mike Bassett. So he’s in your top 4 then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Dean Smith had an average of 1.41 ppm in 138 games for us in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Unless I've added it up incorrectly... You have. 38 points from 30 games. 1.27ppg. 48 over a full season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: He’s managed 31 games averaging 1.23 ppm according to Transfer Market. 30 league games, 31 including the cup game against Man U. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: He’s managed 31 games averaging 1.23 ppm according to Transfer Market. That includes cup loss to Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted August 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2022 So we've got worse than we were under Deano, the squad is stronger (on paper), the signs are that it is only going to get worse and the feel around the club is also worse than it was when Deano was here. There are still people defending Gerrard and mocking the people that have lost faith? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 51 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Steven Gerrard ate my pet hamster Freddie Starr was a scouser as well. It is a well known local delicacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 If he really did veto the Sarr deal because he dosen't want to change to 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 this guy is simply going to sabotage the season. Please get him out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Jas10 said: One under-discussed but big part of his problem is that we're completely incapable of drawing games. I don't know how many we've drawn since he was appointed, but it can't be more than about half a dozen, and a big issue is that draws let everyone think 'at least we got something out the game' even if it's just a single point and the performance wasn't very good. But when we're bad - which is most weeks - we lose (as we do most weeks). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Smith’s PL record with us: 87 games, 28 wins, 16 draws, 43 losses. 110 goals scored, 133 goals conceded. In total, 100 points averaging 1.15 ppm. Gerrard’s so far: 30 games, 11 wins, 5 draws, 14 losses. Goals scored 41, 40 conceded. In total, 38 points, with a 1.27 ppm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, The_Steve said: Smith’s PL record with us: 87 games, 28 wins, 16 draws, 43 losses. 110 goals scored, 133 goals conceded. In total, 100 points averaging 1.15 ppm. Gerrard’s so far: 30 games, 11 wins, 5 draws, 14 losses. Goals scored 41, 40 conceded. In total, 38 points, with a 1.27 ppm. Interesting how small the draw percentage is under both managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Wainy316 said: Interesting how small the draw percentage is under both managers. For sure, and we conceded and score similar numbers. We need to address our defensive frailties for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, VillaChris said: If he really did veto the Sarr deal because he dosen't want to change to 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 this guy is simply going to sabotage the season. Please get him out soon. If that's the case, his refusal to change will see him sacked sooner rather than later. It's his career, if he can't adapt things when they aren't working, he's never going to become an elite manager anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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