lexicon Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Zatman said: I dont care about what he has done at other clubs, I am judging his Villa career. Out of 3 seasons he had 1 good one He had one good season and one excellent season IMO. His loan spell wasn't up to much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 12 hours ago, AJ said: Underrated: Jordan Veretout. Overrated: Christian Benteke. What have you been smoking? He was absolutely immense for us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 13 hours ago, AJ said: Underrated: Jordan Veretout. Overrated: Christian Benteke. Benteke overrated?! Probably the best striker I’ve ever seen at the club. He had absolutely everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Ashley Westwood. The quantum wave theory of Villa players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I’m going to say Jordan Veretout was overrated and Gueye was underrated. Both good players that went on to have decent careers but the former was absolutely shocking for us whilst the latter was probably our best player. Yet Veretout would get less stick for the simple reason he would never play. The reason he never played was because he was so off the pace! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Underrated players that come to mind: Petrov, Barry, Gueye - all players that some people didn't seem to 'get' because they weren't flashy, particularly the first two were accused of 'only passing sideways' etc. as if that was the only thing they did. I hope that with Westwood, who actually did only do that, to compare to later on, the penny finally dropped. Overrated: Hendrie comes to mind, and in recent times it's been McGinn for me. Not that I hate McGinn or don't see the good he does, more so I feel like he gets a much easier ride than other players and is thought of more highly due to his personality rather than his footballing ability and performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Underrated: Mark Delaney. Really difficult to pick an 'overrated' player. It's tough enough for Villa fans to rate a player, let alone overrate them! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Milner is definitely high up the list. One good season that was it. Was ok in his loan spell and didnt do much in his first season after re-signing Yes I always thought he was overrated by many but he has gone on and had a long and successful career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: you can say he's very good but also be overrated at the same time. he is given iconic status with sections of the fanbase to the extent that there were multiple calls for him to be our manager when bruce went. but i think all 3 of our CBs (the ones owned by us) are better than him. our current RB is better too I thought Laursen was better too but didnt play enough games for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: i think all 3 of our CBs (the ones owned by us) are better than him. our current RB is better too Can’t agree with this at all. A fit Laursen was probably the best centre back we’ve had since Southgate in my opinion. There was a reason he played for the great Milan team at that time. If it wernt for his dodgy knee there is no way he would have played for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Under rated: Bosnich, Laursen, Yorke, Platt. All are seen as really good players that played for us but they were really world class players that could have played in any team. Platt rarely gets a mention on here because by all accounts he's an arse, but he was really one of the best players in the world when he left for Bari. Over rated: Too many to mention, Hutton, Elmo, Hourihane all spring to mind but we've had lots of mediocre players that people think are good because they played for Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, lexicon said: What have you been smoking? He was absolutely immense for us. 54 minutes ago, bobzy said: Benteke overrated?! Probably the best striker I’ve ever seen at the club. He had absolutely everything. I knew I was going to cop it for this. I honestly didn't rate him. I found him quite frustrating to watch. I thought he was a tap in merchant that never worked for his goals, and at the beginning of his last season with us when he was out injured, I thought we played better without him. Whenever there were calls on here wanting to " bring Benteke home", I really hoped that it wouldn't happen. Unpopular opinion I know, but that is where I stand, even if I am a bit lonely there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Benteke was definitely not a tap in merchant, that would mean we were creating loads of chances. He pretty much made his own chances at times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, AJ said: I knew I was going to cop it for this. I honestly didn't rate him. I found him quite frustrating to watch. I thought he was a tap in merchant that never worked for his goals, and at the beginning of his last season with us when he was out injured, I thought we played better without him. Whenever there were calls on here wanting to " bring Benteke home", I really hoped that it wouldn't happen. Unpopular opinion I know, but that is where I stand, even if I am a bit lonely there. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. This guy created goals out of nothing due to how little service he got from a bunch of terrible footballers. A 1 in 2 striker in some of the worst Villa teams we've ever seen. Even if he just scored goals, that tally alone is noteworthy. But he didn't - look at this: Tap in merchant ffs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, lexicon said: I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. This guy created goals out of nothing due to how little service he got from a bunch of terrible footballers. A 1 in 2 striker in some of the worst Villa teams we've ever seen. Even if he just scored goals, that tally alone is noteworthy. But he didn't - look at this: Tap in merchant ffs No doubt about it, that is a fantastic goal, and is perfect for contradicting my opinion. However, this is not what I watched most games he played, and I would get frustrated with him, but I would support him regardless. I just never held him as high regard as alot of other people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 10 hours ago, thabucks said: Underrated: Ugo R.I.P & Southgate Overrated: Milner & Petrov I would not have thought that any of us would have underrated Ugo and Southgate. In Southgate's case he's overrated outside Villa Park as a manager though. Milner and Petrov were also very good for us, in my opinion. 2 hours ago, peterw said: some good shouts so I'll go for something different: Overrated: Merson (went missing in too many big games) Laursen (not particularly good on the ball) I don't recall Merse going missing too often and for me, Laursen was one of the best central defenders we have had at the club in the last 50 years. I agree with your comments concerning Lee though. Some other names mentioned that shocked me as well, my own offerings are: Overrated: Alan Wright. Underrated: Steven Davis, Martin Keown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 28, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 28, 2021 Overrated? Almost any striker that comes through the youth, see Moore, Delfounesso, Vassell, Hepburn-Murphy, Davis, Weimann even Archer is being massively over hyped at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted October 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Can’t agree with this at all. A fit Laursen was probably the best centre back we’ve had since Southgate in my opinion. There was a reason he played for the great Milan team at that time. If it wernt for his dodgy knee there is no way he would have played for us. i was talking about mellberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i was talking about mellberg Ohhh! Sorry mate. Mellberg was good but I agree probably on the level of what we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, lexicon said: I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. This guy created goals out of nothing due to how little service he got from a bunch of terrible footballers. A 1 in 2 striker in some of the worst Villa teams we've ever seen. Even if he just scored goals, that tally alone is noteworthy. But he didn't - look at this: Tap in merchant ffs The below is from the game that summed him and his time at Villa up best for me. The other 10 constantly allowing a QPR team somehow even worse than us back into the game whilst he single-handedly dragged us through. One of those where despite how good he was you still come away from it feeling a bit despondent because there was no way it was going to last. Edited October 28, 2021 by Indigo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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