John Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Does anyone even rate Gabby anymore? Pretty much everytime I've seen him mentioned nowadays is in a negative light. He is one of the very few that I rate on this : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 28, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 28, 2021 55 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Was that Laursen (difficult to keep up with this thread). If so then I agree. IIRC he was injured a fair bit, but when fit he was outstanding. Not as much physically, but his ability to read situations. Not entirely unlike God. Mellberg was the better of the two for me. I loved Laursen's commitment and passion but Mellberg was a better defender. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted October 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Mellberg was the better of the two for me. I loved Laursen's commitment and passion but Mellberg was a better defender. mellberg was decent...not saying he wasn't. but IMO he doesn't get in this current team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 13 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I can't believe people have Mellberg as overrated - quick, strong, good in the air, a decent leader, positionally good and iron willed - for me he's underrated and ought to be mentioned more often when people do these top ten Premier League centreback things - he was a Rolls Royce of a defender - underrated outside of Villa Park. Mellberg was superb - for me, next best centre-back after McGrath in the time that I’ve been watching Villa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted October 28, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, tomav84 said: mellberg was decent...not saying he wasn't. but IMO he doesn't get in this current team I am genuinely taken aback by that. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Not a huge reflection on ability I don't think, billing someone as overrated. Mellberg was decent, but I think a lot of fans see him similar to @OutByEaster?. I don't think he's that level so he makes my overrated list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, tomav84 said: mellberg was decent...not saying he wasn't. but IMO he doesn't get in this current team Really? I think Mellberg was far superior to anything we've got currently. He left on a free to Juventus. Would a team like that have any interest in Konza or Mings? I'm not so sure they would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 15 hours ago, MrSmirch said: Underrated? Lowton Overrated? Douglas Luiz No doubt DL is v good on his day but people are far too blinkered just because he’s Brazilian. DL is 22 yrs old. How about let him have a career before saying he is the most overrated of all time 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoony Posted October 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, tomav84 said: mellberg was decent...not saying he wasn't. but IMO he doesn't get in this current team You kidding? He’s far, far, far better than Mings as both a player and a captain and he is also better than Konsa (not by as much, but still better) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Underrated - Sid Cowans, probably the best ball deliverer I've seen in aa Villa shirt and a national disgrace being overlooked by England. Overrated - N'Zogbia - utter w**k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 13 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I can't believe people have Mellberg as overrated - quick, strong, good in the air, a decent leader, positionally good and iron willed - for me he's underrated and ought to be mentioned more often when people do these top ten Premier League centreback things - he was a Rolls Royce of a defender - underrated outside of Villa Park. Had to play in some abhorrent sides too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowandlow Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Mellberg far better than our current options but still overrated a tad for me. Not on ugo or southgates level let alone mcgrath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: I always thought Lowton was underrated and Westwood got far more stick than he deserved. Milner as a winger was overrated, I used to get pissed off when he'd cross it straight at the arse of the defender 2 yards from him but he was much better when through the middle. I always liked Lowton, even if 90% of that is his goal against Stoke and his performance against Sunderland. My view on Westwood is he didn’t merit anywhere near as much debate as was generated on here. He didn’t deserve ALL the stick he received (some was fair), but he also didn’t warrant too much of a defence (again, some of it was fair). It was no doubt quite the jump up from League One (League Two, really) and I think he would have benefited from being used as more of a squad player than a permanent fixture in the starting XI in a struggling team. He’s still playing in the top flight now, so he’s not like Jordan Bowery or someone. And alright, “Burnley’s Player of the Season” isn’t exactly the Ballon d’or but it’s not nothing either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, avfc1982am said: DL is 22 yrs old. How about let him have a career before saying he is the most overrated of all time Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, slowandlow said: Mellberg far better than our current options but still overrated a tad for me. Not on ugo or southgates level let alone mcgrath Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, villa89 said: Platt rarely gets a mention on here because by all accounts he's an arse, but he was really one of the best players in the world when he left for Bari. Yes Platt was fantastic. Even the season under Vengloss when the team were dire and he missed a lot of the season yet he still managed 24 goals from midfield. He was never given the credit for England dispite scoring 28 goals, probably because he was Taylor's prodigy. One of the few players that exported well to Italy. Yes he was world class and one of Villas greats. Edited October 28, 2021 by PaulC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, slowandlow said: Mellberg far better than our current options but still overrated a tad for me. Not on ugo or southgates level let alone mcgrath I love him but I always guiltily feel that there’s been a bit of revisionism with regards to Ugo’s Villa career since his passing. I always thought he was ok but ultimately bang average for us. He definitely had good moments for us but I always mainly remember him messing up all the time. Mellberg was on another planet performance wise to Ugo and I find it utterly bizarre anyone would rank it the other way round. As for Southgate, as much as I dislike him I can’t deny he was excellent for us. Edited October 28, 2021 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Mellberg was the better of the two for me. I loved Laursen's commitment and passion but Mellberg was a better defender. Thinking back you are right. He was a top defender. Would have loved to have seen a partnership of him and Laursen instead of him pushed out right. You don’t sign for Juventus unless you’re a top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Laursen was in my opinion at least the best defender we have had since God retired, but only if you removed the time he was injured or recovering from injury. Bouma was awesome, when he played, which wasn't for very long. Mellberg was awesome as long as he had the beard, if he shaved it he was awful. I remember some real clangers from him, even worse than Mings. I think longterm Konsa will prove to be better than Mellberg was. Delaney was quality but had a knack for rushing at shots with his hands raised, so many penalties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowandlow Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Ingram85 said: I love him but I always guiltily feel that there’s been a bit of revisionism with regards to Ugo’s Villa career since his passing. I always thought he was ok but ultimately bang average for us. He definitely had good moments for us but I always mainly remember him messing up all the time. Mellberg was on another planet performance wise to Ugo and I find it utterly bizarre anyone would rank it the other way round. As for Southgate, as much as I dislike him I can’t deny he was excellent for us. No revisionism from me. I had a preference for ugo over southgate to be honest. Should have been at euro 96 and should have been in the England squads ahead of Rio ferdinand up to about 2000/2001 ish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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