bickster Posted October 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, Genie said: What on earth goes through their heads? This the government that wouldn’t windfall tax oil and gas producers because it might hinder investment. Its all doublespeak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 The thing is that green energy suppliers have not kept their prices down in this current crisis, the energy market is all tied in together, they have to trade energy which has become more expensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 They're just openly vandalising the country at this point 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 07:30, sidcow said: Maybe one for @Rugeley Villa. We've got a 1960s semi detached house with bay windows to the front. It's tiled over. What's the chance of this having any insulation behind it? I noticed a lot of wind coming through in those windy days last week despite us having new windows fitted. If I wanted to get the tiles off, insulation put in then tiles back on is that a job for a roofer or for a specialist insulation company? We literally had this done on an extension that had been put on the back of our kitchen. The tiled roof on the extension had no insulation in and it was freezing in the winter; I took down the ceiling myself. The builders then insulated it for me (they also bricked up some windows and replaced some others) then plaster-boarded it, plastered it and I painted. It's now as warm as the rest of the house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2022 I've cracked. I'm sat here in my big overshirt and I'm bloody freezing so the heating has gone on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sidcow said: I've cracked. I'm sat here in my big overshirt and I'm bloody freezing so the heating has gone on. Beanie hat is what you need. If your head is warm (kw) then you'll be fine! You can sit in your house like a hipster. Edited October 12, 2022 by Xela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted October 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2022 £66 went directly into my bank account today (EDF customer). My smart meter display thingy was going haywire last night (I noticed that it kept on showing "waiting for data") and now I'm waiting for the next bill on 18th October apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted October 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) Soooo, I bit the bullet and submitted meter readings directly onto the site (I don't trust the automatic smart meter readings). I don't get it - they're giving me £66 a month back directly into my account but apparently my direct debit payments are only increasing by about £40 . I have been overpaying though with a larger direct debit than needed for a while and have cut back on my electricity usage but even so, their estimate suggests that I'll be okay and it is quite surprising. To say I'm relieved (for now) is an understatement. EDIT: It will be interesting when the energy payment scheme / reduction to households in the form of direct payments etc ceases mind. Edited October 12, 2022 by trekka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) So I'm a little confused by my latest bill If I am £500 in credit and they are estimating that I am going to be spending £352 on energy between now and Feb, why the hell have my bills gone up...am I missing something? Edited October 12, 2022 by leemond2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: So I'm a little confused by my latest bill If I am £500 in credit and they are estimating that I am going to be spending £352 on energy between now and Feb, why the hell have my bills gone up...am I missing something? Look like they haven't actually added your usage in the last 180days. So your not actually £500 in credit. Looks like payments were a bit short covering your last bill but no usage since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, AlwaysAVFC said: Look like they haven't actually added your usage in the last 180days. So your not actually £500 in credit. Looks like payments were a bit short covering your last bill but no usage since. Thing is, I've been on a smart meter since March and I haven't spent any more than £60 a moth since it was installed and I was paying £65, I've since increased it to £85 so how can I be short if I'm constantly paying the correct amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Thing is, I've been on a smart meter since March and I haven't spent any more than £60 a moth since it was installed and I was paying £65, I've since increased it to £85 so how can I be short if I'm constantly paying the correct amount? They're anticipating you will spend more because a) the standing charges have increased, b) the kwh prices have massively increased and c) people use more energy over winter. Even if you use the same amount of energy in November as you did in April, the cost will probably be more than double, as the cap has increased massively (although you will be getting £66 a month back in credit for 6 months from October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Xela said: They're anticipating you will spend more because a) the standing charges have increased, b) the kwh prices have massively increased and c) people use more energy over winter. Even if you use the same amount of energy in November as you did in April, the cost will probably be more than double, as the cap has increased massively (although you will be getting £66 a month back in credit for 6 months from October Sorry, numbers have never been my strong point, but if I was £500 in credit as of July and I know that I have been paying the correct amount towards my bills are they saying that they are estimating that I'll spend the £500 credit with the additional £350 on top of that between now and Feb? If so that makes sense to me...kind of, like I say, I go full tard when I have to look at anything to do with numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, trekka said: £66 went directly into my bank account today (EDF customer). My smart meter display thingy was going haywire last night (I noticed that it kept on showing "waiting for data") and now I'm waiting for the next bill on 18th October apparently. Just had a look, no refund yet for me (British Gas), I paid on the 5th October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 28 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Sorry, numbers have never been my strong point, but if I was £500 in credit as of July and I know that I have been paying the correct amount towards my bills are they saying that they are estimating that I'll spend the £500 credit with the additional £350 on top of that between now and Feb? If so that makes sense to me...kind of, like I say, I go full tard when I have to look at anything to do with numbers I still think it is because there is a usage charge missing. The £49.51 charge will be possibly be from 13th January to when you had the Smart meter put in and then you are missing any charge since you had the smart meter. Unless I'm looking at it wrong. Is it a prepay smart meter or just a normal one and you're paying by direct debit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, Genie said: Just had a look, no refund yet for me (British Gas), I paid on the 5th October. Not had mine, but our direct debit doesn't go out until the 28th. So not expecting it until next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, AlwaysAVFC said: I still think it is because there is a usage charge missing. The £49.51 charge will be possibly be from 13th January to when you had the Smart meter put in and then you are missing any charge since you had the smart meter. Unless I'm looking at it wrong. Is it a prepay smart meter or just a normal one and you're paying by direct debit? just a normal one via direct debit, I've only ever paid for gas and electric by DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Just now, leemond2008 said: just a normal one via direct debit, I've only ever paid for gas and electric by DD I presume the screenshot is a recent one as its got the October £66 refund on? Smart meter charges are only added every 6 months but can't really explain why there is nothing showing on yours by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AlwaysAVFC said: I presume the screenshot is a recent one as its got the October £66 refund on? Smart meter charges are only added every 6 months but can't really explain why there is nothing showing on yours by now. No idea, its all German to me, the bill only came through today so yeah, its a recent one Edited October 12, 2022 by leemond2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Had our email today to say we are better to move to the standard variable rather than our fix. The unit rate was matched but the standard charge was better on the variable. It makes us about £26 better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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