Zatman Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, useless said: Ings a striker more suited to a bygone age when every team wanted a 'fox in the box' type forward, but there's a reason those type of players went out of vogue like twenty years ago, whilst they themselves will score goals, their overall contribution can be detrimental to the team, for if they're not scoring then they're not contributing much else, so can almost be like playing with ten men, Ings might score goals at West Ham, but he alone won't improve them. I say it's like Ronaldo second spell at Man Utd, he scored goals, but they became better when he left, as they're now better as a team and a better team will spread the goals around and probably score more overall. 13 goals and 6 assists at Villa in equivaleny of 30 full games indicates he was contributing more than goals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Don't get it. Strictly from a numbers on paper point of view you can make an argument. But that aside when you look at everything else, and what we have in the squad, nope. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) I like Ings, but he doesn't fit in an Emery system. Hope he does well (but Wet Spam still get relegated) We need to trust the process. Unai knows what he is doing. Edited January 19, 2023 by Xela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 5 hours ago, flamingsombrero said: Wish him all the best and hopefully he gets to enjoy the Championship next year. Hopefully NOT - £3M to us if Wham stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted January 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jjaacckk91 said: Don't get it. Strictly from a numbers on paper point of view you can make an argument. But that aside when you look at everything else, and what we have in the squad, nope. Sounds like Ings was pretty straight-up with Emery and wanted to move, and maybe he felt he owed it to Ings? Not too ruthless on Emery's part, but I do think that human element played a role. Edited January 19, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 One thing that ings game relied on was his pace. His pace has completely gone now dunno if anyone noticed that. Isnt the type of striker that fits emerys system. If anyone thinks there isnt another striker coming in i think your crazy. There is noway we are going into the remaining part of the season with one striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Wow, was shocked to see this in other football. Not too bothered either way though, think it’s a very good signing for West Ham though assuming he’s agreed to stay if they do end up going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 It be will be a winger/striker type forward…..don’t see us buying a specialist striker until the Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Big risk to let a player like Ings go but it was always on the cards. Just hope we actually do have a replacement lined up as it would be a monumental risk to let him go otherwise. With Archer gone and Watkins injured, it's too much to expect Duran to come in and immediately fill Ings boots. Brighton was one of my favourite aways in years so I thank Danny for that. Interesting times ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 57 minutes ago, Zatman said: 13 goals and 6 assists at Villa in equivaleny of 30 full games indicates he was contributing more than goals He did, although I was trying to think of games where Ings was a standout player for us. I can’t think of too many, but my memory of the late Smith and entire Gerrard era is pretty poor now as a trauma coping mechanism. Can anyone point to a few games where Ings really shone? I know there must be a few. Watkins, for all his obvious faults and erratic form, has had some incredible games for us where he’s been the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I like Ings but I think you have to be logical about this and realise that if we are to get to where we want to be, which is qualify for European football, then he isn't going to be the main to take us there and with that in mind I can see why at nearly 31 and with a decent offer on the table we have decided to let him go. Aside from his injury ravaged 3 years at Liverpool he has always played for struggling top flight clubs. Burnley, Southampton, a lower table Villa and now a deep in the mire West Ham and that probably speaks a lot about his level. There are a number of others of course who aren't going to take us back to European football and I suppose the one who springs to mind when talking about Ings is Watkins. Whilst he doesn't offer much in the way of goals he does contribute in other ways with his work rate, running off the ball and willingness to run the channels. He is also only 27 and is not in last chance saloon in terms of resale value. Good luck to Ings though. A consummate professional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, KentVillan said: He did, although I was trying to think of games where Ings was a standout player for us. I can’t think of too many, but my memory of the late Smith and entire Gerrard era is pretty poor now as a trauma coping mechanism. Can anyone point to a few games where Ings really shone? I know there must be a few. Watkins, for all his obvious faults and erratic form, has had some incredible games for us where he’s been the difference. It's not easy to "shine" as a striker so to speak, other than scoring goals. Which is of course what he is there for. So I'd say Brighton away as I mentioned was a stand out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, KentVillan said: He did, although I was trying to think of games where Ings was a standout player for us. I can’t think of too many, but my memory of the late Smith and entire Gerrard era is pretty poor now as a trauma coping mechanism. Can anyone point to a few games where Ings really shone? I know there must be a few. Watkins, for all his obvious faults and erratic form, has had some incredible games for us where he’s been the difference. Brighton away, that Brentford win as well when captain clearing in the woods was sacked. He had some memorable moments though like the Bailey assist vs Everton{I think he did similar vs Leeds}, the overhead kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: It's not easy to "shine" as a striker so to speak, other than scoring goals. Which is of course what he is there for. So I'd say Brighton away as I mentioned was a stand out. Brighton away was a pen and a deflection. The bicycle kick goal as @Zatmanmentions was indeed a moment of pure magic. I just wonder if we’ll really miss him all that much. One of those players I rated and personally wouldn’t have sold, but not sure it’s as big a mistake as some think. Watkins would be a much bigger loss IMO, especially to Emery, even though on an individual level it’s hard to say Watkins is better than Ings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, KentVillan said: Brighton away was a pen and a deflection. The bicycle kick goal as @Zatmanmentions was indeed a moment of pure magic. I just wonder if we’ll really miss him all that much. One of those players I rated and personally wouldn’t have sold, but not sure it’s as big a mistake as some think. Watkins would be a much bigger loss IMO, especially to Emery, even though on an individual level it’s hard to say Watkins is better than Ings. I though Ings pressed well at Brighton and created space for others to run into. He also scored twice ina game that we came from behind to win for the first time in yonks so I'd class that as good performance. That said, he clearly wasn't in Emerys plans so let's see what happens. I was looking forward to him scoring against his old club tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Hourihane got goals and assists, even at Premier League level, six assists and four goals in nineteen games worth of PL football. But there was more to think about than that, his overall contribution wasn't deemed good enough or right for the team, similar with El Ghazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Personally I’m a bit puzzled we’ve sold him, and I think the club missed a trick by not making better use of him since he signed. He’s a good player and perhaps having a plan B that played to his strengths might have been nice, even if Watkins was our plan A. I have faith Emery knows what he’s doing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I liked Danny. A consumate professional who got on with it and popped up with some really good goals and assists. Bit like when we had Kevin Phillips. Not a legend but goes with good wishes and some fond memories. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2023 I'm going to pretend that Unai let Danny go because it was Danny's wish. I'm ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Seems an odd decision, as per the stats above he contributes well to the team. Hope we have an experienced replacement lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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