Zatman Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Let's face it, he was a total panic signing after losing our best player. Traore had a very good season last year and yet we signed Buendia and Bailey who also play right side. Lack of planning from Villa. Just because he scored in the Bundesliga doesn't mean he'd do well in the PL, Sancho also looks pretty average. Didnt we sign him before Grealish left? Our board naively thought Grealish would stay until the last day hence the bizarre barbecue in London 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Bailey is another I can see us dumping for peanuts and becoming a top player again elsewhere. Him and Sanson will be better in a decent setup with a real manager 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 9 hours ago, VillaChris said: I think Bailey was needed. We needed better quality out wide let's not forget given Trez pre injury was largely huff and puff with the odd nice run and finish. AEG output was good last season but we knew he'd drift in and out of games frustratingly. Bailey being reasonably consistant for Leverkusen domestically and in europe and only being 23 fitted our emerging profile nicely. Let's not forget someone like Dwight McNeill was being seriously linked this time last year. Decent player on his day but he's barely started a game for Burnley in last two months so doubt him in 30m bracket would've been much better. Smith Rowe would've been but his agent took us for a ride there. Ings was the odd one really as we really needed a CF who could also fill in out wide like someone like Jarred Bowen does for West Ham yet we someone in late 20s with little resale value who's created so many tactical issues in final third. Hoping with a solid pre season Bailey can come good but I don't see it in this formation under this manager tbh, he's really a 4-3-3/counter attack system player. We needed a left sided forward, not another right sided one where we already had Buendia and Traore. I maintain that Bailey was a strange signing to be honest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, paul514 said: There is going to be a lot of people eating their words over Bailey next season. 100%. Full preseason and run of games he'll be a different player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I really don’t see the evidence to suggest Bailey is going to be a success here. Hopefully I’m wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Zatman said: Bailey is another I can see us dumping for peanuts and becoming a top player again elsewhere. Him and Sanson will be better in a decent setup with a real manager Me too. We sign quality player for big money -> they initially look amazing and we get very excited -> form drops off -> drops off some more and we cant play them -> they leave for a big loss and start performing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I didnt think bailey was that good but he wasnt as bad as some suggest on here. He certainly was better than coutinho was yesterday. I dint understand though what the hells happened to his pace? He looked slow at points yesterday. He even got beaten for pace by bloody dewbury hall! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Feel like with the position we are in, he doesn’t have time to get upto speed right now. We need each position firing. He certainly looks short of confidence and for some players that’s what it’s all about. Doesn’t look like he believes in himself. Which for all the negatives I’ve said about him, I’m willing to save ultimate judgement. But he shouldn’t be starting over buendia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Genie said: Me too. We sign quality player for big money -> they initially look amazing and we get very excited -> form drops off -> drops off some more and we cant play them -> they leave for a big loss and start performing again. This would suggest we don’t get the best out of players due to subpar coaching and poor player development. Man U have been awful at those things for years. I wouldn’t say Villa have been nearly as bad, but things could definitely be better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: This would suggest we don’t get the best out of players due to subpar coaching and poor player development. Man U have been awful at those things for years. I wouldn’t say Villa have been nearly as bad, but things could definitely be better. I think so, I think its the culture at the club. Maybe too comfortable, I dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 18 hours ago, messi11 said: best player on the pitch today! He wouldnt be the best player on the pitch if he was playing in the back yard with his infant children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 11 hours ago, Zatman said: Bailey is another I can see us dumping for peanuts and becoming a top player again elsewhere. Him and Sanson will be better in a decent setup with a real manager Will a decent set up and a real manager help him to hit an enormous target from 12 yards? He should have scored against Spurs and Leicester and yet he didn’t even manage to get either shot on target. Bailey has been really poor so far. He doesn’t look to have anything special in his game and he doesn’t deserve a place in the team. This is not the manager’s fault. He didn’t spend a fortune on him. Stop using every opportunity to have a go at Gerrard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, M_Afro said: Will a decent set up and a real manager help him to hit an enormous target from 12 yards? He should have scored against Spurs and Leicester and yet he didn’t even manage to get either shot on target. Bailey has been really poor so far. He doesn’t look to have anything special in his game and he doesn’t deserve a place in the team. This is not the manager’s fault. He didn’t spend a fortune on him. Stop using every opportunity to have a go at Gerrard. 15 goals last season would indicate he can hit an enormous target from 12 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: 15 goals last season would indicate he can hit an enormous target from 12 yards How many of those were in the PL? How many goals did Sancho get last season in the same league? He’s proven to have been a total waste of money so far too. Maybe being successful in the Bundesliga is not necessarily a suitable barometer for success elsewhere. Keep up your tirade against Gerrard though. It in no way makes you look immature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, M_Afro said: How many of those were in the PL? How many goals did Sancho get last season in the same league? He’s proven to have been a total waste of money so far too. Maybe being successful in the Bundesliga is not necessarily a suitable barometer for success elsewhere. Keep up your tirade against Gerrard though. It in no way makes you look immature. Not what you said though. The goal is the same size in every league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, spiezels said: Feel like with the position we are in, he doesn’t have time to get upto speed right now. We need each position firing. For what? Our push for 12th? Seems like the ideal time to give players like Bailey a few games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Leon Bailey and lots of wailers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 44 minutes ago, M_Afro said: How many of those were in the PL? How many goals did Sancho get last season in the same league? He’s proven to have been a total waste of money so far too. Maybe being successful in the Bundesliga is not necessarily a suitable barometer for success elsewhere. Keep up your tirade against Gerrard though. It in no way makes you look immature. He also scored 3-4 in europa league so given that's a competition we want to be in next 2 years I'd say that's a better guide. Pretty sure he actually scored v Rangers in the knock out rounds so I think Gerrard does want him to succeed but can't see it being in this formation tbh, he needs to stay out wide with some space to run into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, MrSmirch said: Leon Bailey and lots of wailers. He should be concentrating on his game, rather than looking to front a band: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, R.Bear said: He wouldnt be the best player on the pitch if he was playing in the back yard with his infant children. Jesus. So infantile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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