villa4europe Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 The thing for me is Phil hasn't got control of the ball so you can argue that he hasn't denied him anything Its a foul but not a clear opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 The rules to football these days are a joke. The handball rule, offside and VAR, all absolute nonsense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Makes the product entertaining though doesn't it... Another Monday morning dominating the water cooler chat secured by the world's most exciting league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Anyone who has ever played football knows that you can interfere with play without touching the ball. The rule about not interfering with play is for players who stand with their hands in the air or who are 10 metres away from the ball to the side. It’s SURELY not for someone who is actively running next to the ball, moving as if to play it, and right in front of the keeper’s eyeline. 100% there’ll be an apology for this one, or same thing will happen in another game and decision will go other way. It’s **** ridiculous. **** hate Man Utd, embarrassment to English football 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) Ball played through to Rashford who chases the ball as a "live" attacker → interfering with play Akanji checks and holds his line to put Rashford offside and then both City defenders can see he is clearly offside, which influences their actions → interfering with play If Akanji doesn't check his run to put Rashford offside, Bruno doesn't get to the ball before Akanji → interfering with play Might as well just scrap this farcical implementation of the "offside" rule and just let it be a free for all with no offsides Edited January 14, 2023 by a-k 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2023 Another week, another case of a decision that is either so appalling that legitimate questions of corruption can be asked, or the decision was actually “correct” and therefore the current rules are wrong for how everybody understands the game. There is not a single football fan in the world who thinks that shouldn’t be offside. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted January 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2023 Honestly one of the worst (non) offside calls I've ever seen. Yeah nice that Man C get some calls against them but stuff like this is why I'm no longer all that interested in football. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, fightoffyour said: Another week, another case of a decision that is either so appalling that legitimate questions of corruption can be asked, or the decision was actually “correct” and therefore the current rules are wrong for how everybody understands the game. There is not a single football fan in the world who thinks that shouldn’t be offside. It was definitely wrong. The rules are clear that interfering doesn’t necessarily mean touching the ball. BT Sport studio not even covering it, Peter Walton backing VAR. Farcical. Only fans backing that decision are Utd fans and idiots. How did VAR make the decision so quickly as well? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Name Is Death Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 The spineless ref advisor pretty much said "the linesman was right to raise his flag, but it wasn't offside". Baffling, nonsensical shite. What a stupid game this is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, His Name Is Death said: The spineless ref advisor pretty much said "the linesman was right to raise his flag, but it wasn't offside". Baffling, nonsensical shite. What a stupid game this is. Referees need to get coaching badges or something. It’s their lack of understanding of the game that makes them interpret rules like this… or just rank corruption 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Ok right so just putting aside for a sec how **** wrong the VAR got it, who is actually in charge here? Interfering with play is a judgment call. The ONFIELD officials adjudged that he was interfering with play which is quite **** obviously the correct call. The VAR then overruled it without the ref even looking at it himself?? So is the VAR actually the one in charge??????? I’m absolutely raging. The refereeing has never been worse. And this is coming from a former referee who hates criticising referees. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, KentVillan said: It was definitely wrong. The rules are clear that interfering doesn’t necessarily mean touching the ball. BT Sport studio not even covering it, Peter Walton backing VAR. Farcical. Only fans backing that decision are Utd fans and idiots. How did VAR make the decision so quickly as well? VAR wasn’t involved. The ref spoke with the assistant by the touchline, changed his decision and ruled it as a goal. He didn’t check the monitor either. VAR apparently didn’t believe the ref was obviously wrong so didn’t interfere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, Spoony said: Ok right so just putting aside for a sec how **** wrong the VAR got it, who is actually in charge here? Interfering with play is a judgment call. The ONFIELD officials adjudged that he was interfering with play which is quite **** obviously the correct call. The VAR then overruled it without the ref even looking at it himself?? So is the VAR actually the one in charge??????? I’m absolutely raging. The refereeing has never been worse. And this is coming from a former referee who hates criticising referees. No, the assistant first said offside. The onfield ref changed the assistant’s call. VAR was not involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: VAR wasn’t involved. The ref spoke with the assistant by the touchline, changed his decision and ruled it as a goal. He didn’t check the monitor either. VAR apparently didn’t believe the ref was obviously wrong so didn’t interfere. Wow, even worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2023 Doesn’t the linesman just judge the offside position, not the interfering part? Scholes and Rio agree it wasn’t offside. Cracking punditry lads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 The “not interfering” thing is when there is a player offside on the touch line. When the ball has been passed to the offside player, the defereders are trying to stop the offside player getting it, and the goalkeeper has come out because of the offside player he is very much active. Peter Walton was talking absolute shit. Praised Rashford for his clever play. Praised the linesman for flagging even though he knew it was onside. Ridiculous. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: No, the assistant first said offside. The onfield ref changed the assistant’s call. VAR was not involved. Ok thanks. Good to clarify which of the 7 referees in the game doesn’t know the rules this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, His Name Is Death said: The spineless ref advisor pretty much said "the linesman was right to raise his flag, but it wasn't offside". Baffling, nonsensical shite. What a stupid game this is. I actually don’t have an issue with that. I understand what he’s saying. I have an issue with how their own rules are being interpreted. Truly baffles me that Rashford can do what he did and not be considered to have interfered in play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Quote Referee Club supported Martin Atkinson Leeds United Stuart Attwell Luton Town Peter Bankes Unknown John Brookes Unknown David Coote Unknown Mike Dean Tranmere Rovers Darren England Barnsley Kevin Friend Bristol City and Leicester City Jarred Gillett Unknown Tony Harrington Hartlepool Simon Hooper Swindon Town Rob Jones Unknown Andy Madley Huddersfield Town Andre Marriner Aston Villa Jon Moss Sunderland Michael Oliver Newcastle United Craig Pawson Sheffield United Michael Salisbury Unknown Graham Scot Swindon Town Anthony Taylor Altrincham Paul Tierney Wigan Athletic from https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/which-football-teams-do-premier-league-referees-support/bltc5a6db7933177b98 What a **** coincidence that none of the Premier League refs has declared support for a Sky 6 side, despite them being the most widely supported clubs in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2023 Ederson didn’t even know who was going to shoot until the last maybe 0.5 seconds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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