Talldarkandransome Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Has F1 employed VAR and Mike Dean for this race. You can't just make up rules to make the final race more interesting, I hope Mercedes win the appeal and it will be the governing body and race director to blame. This has sploit what has been a good season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Just had a cup of tea with 4 rich tea biscuits to dunk and it's made no difference. Fuming. I don't think you need to wait long to be cheered up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: Surely next season will be a bigger financial blockbuster after this as more people will be interested thats all well and good, but if or when a sport can arbitrarily start not adhering to its own rules, thats a rather slippy slop to people going off a sport. Although tbh, i doubt it would make a difference, the money will keep rolling and the "officiating" will keep being ropey, i mean look at football....didnt stop that did it lol. I dunno, im shocked and not shocked at the incompetence and/or corruption of some decisions, its shocking that it can happen in a highly regulated sport (although tbh, again, it isnt if im honest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, mykeyb said: I don't think you need to wait long to be cheered up... Why, how far away are you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Zatman said: Surely next season will be a bigger financial blockbuster after this as more people will be interested Do things like this increase interest though? There’s a reason that sports have rules and any sport that just decides it’s going to make rules up as it goes along isn’t that attractive to me as a sports fan in general. If we were 3-0 up against United in the FA Cup in January and then they just decided the next goal was worth 4 I’d lose my interest in football. Edited December 12, 2021 by tom_avfc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted December 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2021 Decision on its way in 8 minutes .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: Do things like this increase interest though? There’s a reason that sports have rules and any sport that just decides it’s going to make rules up as it goes along isn’t that attractive to me as a sports fan in general. If we were 3-0 up against United in the FA Cup in January and then they just decided the next goal was worth 4 I’d lose my interest in football. Not for the loyal fan the organisations dont care about them but to a casual fan thats what they are aiming for really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: Not for the loyal fan the organisations dont care about them but to a casual fan thats what they are aiming for really I can say I've not watched a full race all season, but I'm spamming F5 tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Why, how far away are you? Don't know where you are so cannot say. Why do you fancy a pint? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: Not for the loyal fan the organisations dont care about them but to a casual fan thats what they are aiming for really It depends who the casual fan is though. If a fan of any other sport had tuned in to that as their first f1 race they’d have recognised the farcical ending and I’m not sure you’re attracting many of them for next season. Manufacturing drama by completely changing rules isn’t a great look for a sport and neither is finishing a season with discussions between officials and lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, tinker said: Decision on its way in 8 minutes .... Or at least before Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 12, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, mykeyb said: Don't know where you are so cannot say. Why do you fancy a pint? Red bulls comes in small cans, a pint of it would be horrendous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, bickster said: Red bulls comes in small cans, a pint of it would be horrendous I small can would be horrendous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, tom_avfc said: It depends who the casual fan is though. If a fan of any other sport had tuned in to that as their first f1 race they’d have recognised the farcical ending and I’m not sure you’re attracting many of them for next season. Manufacturing drama by completely changing rules isn’t a great look for a sport and neither is finishing a season with discussions between officials and lawyers. Here is what I cannot understand. Masi must have know Max was on new softs and Lewis was on old hards so what he tried to do was bound to end as it has. Why do it? Just let the race end under the safety car and no one would have complained. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, mykeyb said: Here is what I cannot understand. Masi must have know Max was on new softs and Lewis was on old hards so what he tried to do was bound to end as it has. Why do it? Just let the race end under the safety car and no one would have complained. Yeah this is what I was trying to say earlier. It’s hardly much more of a spectacle to get them “racing” for a lap where Verstappen was always going to pass him and win with ease. It’s just the weirdest bit of officiating I’ve seen in any sport for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, mykeyb said: Here is what I cannot understand. Masi must have know Max was on new softs and Lewis was on old hards so what he tried to do was bound to end as it has. Why do it? Just let the race end under the safety car and no one would have complained. I think the most exciting ending was to restart with all the cars in the way. At least then Max would have had a lap to carve through half the field to get to Lewis and look like a hero. Would have been better than just ending under the safety car (although still likely to end in a Hamilton victory). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Regardless of who you wanted to win the decision to release the lapped cars was very odd. I can understand why Mercedes are fighting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, mykeyb said: Here is what I cannot understand. Masi must have know Max was on new softs and Lewis was on old hards so what he tried to do was bound to end as it has. Why do it? Just let the race end under the safety car and no one would have complained. End on a safety car then would be criticised by others as a farce and ruined the Championship as a tv spectacle.Race director was in a no win situation This week was probably the most mainstream attention Formula One has received in 10/15 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, mykeyb said: Don't know where you are so cannot say. Why do you fancy a pint? Lol I do but I've got a thumb on me head tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tom_avfc Posted December 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: End on a safety car then would be criticised by others as a farce and ruined the Championship as a tv spectacle.Race director was in a no win situation This week was probably the most mainstream attention Formula One has received in 10/15 years Hamilton was 13 seconds ahead when the crash happened. If the race finished under a safety car then the rules would have been followed and the guy who was quicker for 99.5% of the race would have won. Instead he’s chosen to make his own rules up to allow the guy who was far slower over the course of the race to get the win. There was absolutely no reason to do what he did. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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