rjw63 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Made of jenga bricks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Villa in wasting tens of millions on a finished player shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) He’s had a wasted season no doubt about it but he’s certainly not a finished player. His career with us may end this summer but he’s only 26 and has some really good pedigree across Europe already. If we do try and sell him in the next few months, we’ll probably lose money on our approx 17m outlay. However, I’d still expect something around 10-12m or and this could be the best option, is loan him out to a decent European side and hope he plays regular games. Get his value up again. We could still make a profit on Bert, it’s just being clever with our sales pitch. Whether we do or don’t though, I can’t see him being part of our squad next season. Edited April 23, 2022 by ferguson1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: He’s had a wasted season no doubt about it but he’s certainly not a finished player. His career with us may end this summer but he’s only 26 and has some really good pedigree across Europe already. If we do try and sell him in the next few months, we’ll probably lose money on our approx 17m outlay. However, I’d still expect something around 10-12m or and this could be the best option, is loan him out to a decent European side and hope he plays regular games. Get his value up again. We could still make a profit on Bert, it’s just being clever with our sales pitch. Weather we do or don’t though, I can’t see him being part of our squad next season. I'd be really disappointed if we sold him for £10-12m on the back of him being injured all season. We'd be better off getting him fit and giving him a chance next season, it's not like he has a long injury record prior to this year and we'd be selling him at his absolute rock bottom lowest possible value. If it's £10m or nothing then either keep him or loan him somewhere where he'll get regular games and up his value a bit like Mings with us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Spoony said: Villa in wasting tens of millions on a finished player shocker It's the Villa way lol! Think we sign players to keep the physios in a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, weedman said: I'd be really disappointed if we sold him for £10-12m on the back of him being injured all season. We'd be better off getting him fit and giving him a chance next season, it's not like he has a long injury record prior to this year and we'd be selling him at his absolute rock bottom lowest possible value. If it's £10m or nothing then either keep him or loan him somewhere where he'll get regular games and up his value a bit like Mings with us Unfortunately, I don't think Gerrard is a fan He'd rather subject us to watching the likes of McGinn every week than a trickster like Traore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Aside from his obvious injury issues, he's been a victim of the fact that we bought too many wingers/AM types. He was unlikely to get the nod over Buendia, Bailey, Coutinho and even Ings when fit. Crazy that some people thought we still needed to purchase even more wingers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 20 hours ago, Zatman said: how dare a footballer get injured. I suppose you were the same to Laursen when he was injured His fitness is poor, and he is a weakling. Last season he didnt fancy it i cant remember which game it was but he was getting knocked about it and requested to come off. Too unreliable and i jury prone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Last season he didnt fancy it i cant remember which game it was but he was getting knocked about it and requested to come off. I doubt that happened unless he was injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: His fitness is poor, and he is a weakling. Last season he didnt fancy it i cant remember which game it was but he was getting knocked about it and requested to come off. Too unreliable and i jury prone 36 games last season and was subbed off early once when he ran into a barrier vs Newcastle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, Zatman said: 36 games last season and was subbed off early once when he ran into a barrier vs Newcastle How many this year? Seemed to have been okay in the AFCON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Laughable Chimp said: Aside from his obvious injury issues, he's been a victim of the fact that we bought too many wingers/AM types. He was unlikely to get the nod over Buendia, Bailey, Coutinho and even Ings when fit. Crazy that some people thought we still needed to purchase even more wingers. We bought two more right sided attackers (Buendia, Bailey) when we lost a left sided attacker, who was also our best player. The madness was two fold in overstocking the right side of attack while completely neglecting the left, so I think we did need to buy more attackers...we just bought them in the wrong position. Maybe three fold when Ings is included...prioritising another striker over our biggest glaring gap. It's a mistake that cost Smith his job and has the club wasting millions on superfluous players. (Admittedly Traore and Bailey have been injured a lot, so clearly some depth on the right has been necessary!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: How many this year? Seemed to have been okay in the AFCON Tbf he was struggling for fitness during it. And he'd have a few more league apps if Gerrard gave him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: His fitness is poor, and he is a weakling. Last season he didnt fancy it i cant remember which game it was but he was getting knocked about it and requested to come off. Too unreliable and i jury prone Still love him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: Unfortunately, I don't think Gerrard is a fan He'd rather subject us to watching the likes of McGinn every week than a trickster like Traore. I agree. Our games would be much more entertaining if we played Traore as a CM. Couldn’t be any worse than McGinn half the time anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: How many this year? Seemed to have been okay in the AFCON Not what you said though before. You were proven wrong then changed the narrative 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Sack the whole sports science team tbh. Nearly all of our signings the past 2 years move like geriatrics and come back from injury an absolute sack of shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Zatman said: 36 games last season and was subbed off early once when he ran into a barrier vs Newcastle Think he actually fractured a rib there as well, he was having a good game in that one too if I remember correctly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 I'd be really surprised if we could get £10m for him. Really foolish signing. Could have got him for £6-10m IMO. If we couldn't, walking away and buying and actual £20m winger would have been much more worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Not what you said though before. You were proven wrong then changed the narrative Havent been provden wrong you gave one example, he was subbed more than once due to a injury Just like you never answered my question why i asked you have many game he played this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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