Vive_La_Villa Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 It’s a rash challenge and whilst I don’t really care about Bentacur, you are allowed to say that wasn’t good by Cash. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, allani said: Hmm.... Ben Mee springs to mind. In this case I think that Cash's challenge was poor and mistimed but it wasn't dangerous or a potential career / season ender. You see a challenge like this in almost every match and it is always a yellow and usually both players get up and carry on with no issue. It was unfortunate that Bentancur was injured (but possibly also slightly down to him being out for so long and not being 100% match ready?) but if you give a red for (poor) tackles like this then pretty much no match ever finishes with 22 players. I don't think you can even argue that it was a challenge worthy of the 10 minute sin bin (assuming that they bring it in). The hypocrisy is almost amusing. Football fan mentality hey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oishiiniku_uk Posted November 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) Before tackling a player you should ideally ask them: 1. How recently they've been injured 2. How severe that injury was 3. Whether the part of their body you are likely to make contact with has sustained an injury in the past. 4. Whether their team has already sustained significant injuries in recent weeks. Once all of this information has been ascertained, then you can decide if you should proceed with the tackle. Also you ideally would ask this series of questions before every subsequent tackle in case anything has changed. Edited November 30, 2023 by oishiiniku_uk 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, oishiiniku_uk said: Before tackling a player you should ideally ask them: 1. How recently they've been injured 2. How severe that injury was 3. Whether the part of their body you are likely to make contact with has sustained an injury in the past. 4. Whether their team has already sustained significant injuries in recent weeks. Once all of this information has been ascertained, then the player must decide if they should proceed with the tackle. Also you ideally would ask this series of questions before every subsequent tackle in case anything has changed. Well put. Looked to me like Bentancur wasn't fully ready for a competitive match. That's on Spurs, not us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: It’s a rash challenge and whilst I don’t really care about Bentacur, you are allowed to say that wasn’t good by Cash. Yeah it wasn’t good, but rare for this type of tackle to cause an injury. Bentancur was unlucky. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Steero113 said: Not sure what you're on about here but have fun with your thoughts I suppose. I’m pretty sure you know what I’m getting at. Thanks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted November 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 29, 2023 Spurs fans will be saying Matty was on the Grassy Knoll next! I have made worse tackles against my 8 year old in living room football. Shame for Bentacur but that is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: The hypocrisy is almost amusing. Football fan mentality hey. Where's the hypocrisy? They're two totally different challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: The hypocrisy is almost amusing. Football fan mentality hey. The challenges are so far apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2023 11 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: It’s a rash challenge and whilst I don’t really care about Bentacur, you are allowed to say that wasn’t good by Cash. and he was suitably punished for it. i don't get what the issue is. do you think it was a red then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, tomav84 said: and he was suitably punished for it. i don't get what the issue is. do you think it was a red then? Not at all. It was a yellow. There’s no issue. I was just pointing out you are allowed to say it was a poor challenge. Some Villa fans seem to get sensitive about that being said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Mantis said: Where's the hypocrisy? They're two totally different challenges. 8 hours ago, Tomaszk said: The challenges are so far apart. They are both poor challenges that wouldn’t normally injury a player but in this instance did. In Wesley’s case very badly. I get why Spurs are angry with Cash. Anyway enough of this. Prefer Cash at right back. Reckon he’ll probably be back there tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted November 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2023 Remember this in the penalty area as well, no foul. Spurs can fucX right off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: They are both poor challenges that wouldn’t normally injury a player but in this instance did. In Wesley’s case very badly. I get why Spurs are angry with Cash. Anyway enough of this. Prefer Cash at right back. Reckon he’ll probably be back there tonight. I think most people's point on this forum is Spurs' anger seems excessive. On the Nigel De Jong scissor kick scale, I think you can give Cash's hack a 6 or 7/10. Push it up to 8 if you're feeling really funky. Mee's was a 20 on the scale. Plus Cash was booked of course, Ben Mee not even a foul given against him. That probably added to some of the anger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: I think most people's point on this forum is Spurs' anger seems excessive. On the Nigel De Jong scissor kick scale, I think you can give Cash's hack a 6 or 7/10. Push it up to 8 if you're feeling really funky. Mee's was a 20 on the scale. Plus Cash was booked of course, Ben Mee not even a foul given against him. That probably added to some of the anger. I reckon if one of our best players had just returned from injury and then put out again by a rash challenge. Our fans would be very angry too. I like the scale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I reckon if one of our best players had just returned from injury and then put out again by a rash challenge. Our fans would be very angry too. i'd like to think we wouldn't be quite as unhinged as spurs fans have been 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I reckon if one of our best players had just returned from injury and then put out again by a rash challenge. Our fans would be very angry too. I like the scale I don’t think Emery would be stupid enough to risk a player in that scenario. Look how carefully he has managed Moreno and Ramsey’s return. Spurs in their desperation played a player that had no business starting a premier league game at that intensity after so long. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 His decision-making at times is seriously lacking. Needs competition badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Too many lapses in concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Got a feeling we will see him on the bench for Sunday. Mainly for tactical reason, but he could do with a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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