darrenm Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, sidcow said: Really? I'm not happy whatsoever if he's ready to f**k over the world me and my kids are going to live in. I voted against Brexit but we are where we are and the less f**king over of anyone the better now. You'd prefer a no deal brexit over a soft brexit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, darrenm said: You'd prefer a no deal brexit over a soft brexit? I'd prefer the best of whatever we can get without anyone going out of their way to f**ck over a man I didn't vote for because they don't personally like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, sidcow said: I'd prefer the best of whatever we can get without anyone going out of their way to f**ck over a man I didn't vote for because they don't personally like him. That's not really an answer. If Biden is willing to side with the EU and Ireland over the UK gov then UK gov needs to keep the Irish border open to get a trade deal with the US. Biden has taken the jam out of Johnson's donut (f**ked him over) and we'll all be better off for it. Sorry if you're unhappy with that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 I'm missing the guy with the maps already. This must be how a druggie going cold turkey must feel. I'm aching to know what the latest position is in Georgia and when the next update is. It's all just pictures of the celebrations now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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darrenm Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I think there's only one way the US trade deal is going to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, sidcow said: Really? I'm not happy whatsoever if he's ready to f**k over the world me and my kids are going to live in. I voted against Brexit but we are where we are and the less f**king over of anyone the better now. Is a perfectly sensible take. However, there's also the take that if you indulge the lies and hatred that are at its source, then you normalise it. And it comes back again, and worse. It's a depressing bit of cognitive dissonance. I'd prefer the country to be a happy, prosperous place, but not if the price you pay for it is the end of political and cultural normality. Personally I think that the elitist dilettantes in charge being shown that they can't just scoff and gurn at the world and always get their own way, is exactly what the county needs at the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Is a perfectly sensible take. However, there's also the take that if you indulge the lies and hatred that are at its source, then you normalise it. And it comes back again, and worse. It's a depressing bit of cognitive dissonance. I'd prefer the country to be a happy, prosperous place, but not if the price you pay for it is the end of political and cultural normality. Personally I think that the elitist dilettantes in charge being shown that they can't just scoff and gurn at the world and always get their own way, is exactly what the county needs at the moment. If I understood a word of what you said I might agree. I just don't like the language of f**king people over. Sounds like the kind of vindictive bloody minded attitude we have hopefully just seen the back of. Edited November 7, 2020 by sidcow 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, sidcow said: I'm missing the guy with the maps already. This must be how a druggie going cold turkey must feel. I'm aching to know what the latest position is in Georgia and when the next update is. It's all just pictures of the celebrations now. Load up Google Maps, zoom in and out on a random state and occasionally yell "key race update" to yourself every few minutes. Electoral methadone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, sidcow said: If I understood a word of what you said I might agree. I just don't like the language of f**king people over. I'll make it simpler. Indulging proto-fascists means everyone get more f****d over in the long run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, sidcow said: If I understand a word of what you said I might agree. I just don't like the language of f**king people over. Sounds like the kind of vindictive bloody minded attitude we have hopefully just seen the back of. Come on. It's just a colloquialism. It's informal. I'm sorry if I've offended your sensibilities. I'm happy that Joe Biden won't allow Boris Johnson to negotiate a trade deal with the USA which necessitates a hard border in Ireland and jeopardises the Good Friday Agreement, ensuring the UK stays in the EU customs union and most likely the single market too, against Boris Johnson's wishes. Is that better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 I do wonder if they'll send in the goons again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, sidcow said: I just don't like the language of f**king people over. You wouldn't have fitted in at an ERG meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted November 7, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2020 Biden will be dead or out of office before a US / UK Trade Deal is ever signed. The same is also true if Trump had won as the GOP weren't ever going to take the House in this election. A quick deal would have required the GOP taking all three branches of US Government and that deal itself would have "F***ed us over" ALL a Biden victory has done is show up Johnson et al for the fools they are. It's not really about Biden being vindictive towards Johnson, that's an irrelevant tabloid tittle tattle story really Decent trade deals take a lot of negotiations, over a long period of time. Johnson and Biden will be long gone before it ever happens, What Biden being elected does mean is that a deal with the EU will become a higher priority than one with the UK because someone with a degree of sanity is President, they'll go for the bigger market first not all this other guff A quick Johnson / Trump trade deal was never going to happen as the hosue would have blocked it, if it did happen it would have been shit on our side, this just removes that possibility. We're actually better off without THAT deal Also as the GFA was achieved with the help of Clinton, its something the Dems will defend to the end but that was always the case regardless of who won 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) Love the hat Joe Biden is wearing at home. In response to those awful MAGA hats Trump has his cultists wearing, he has one which says “we just did. 46” , Edited November 8, 2020 by meregreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyblade Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 So who's gonna tell them? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Keyblade said: So who's gonna tell them? I believe Morello has tried in the past and I think the irony is lost on these automatons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, Keyblade said: So who's gonna tell them? The best part is the "blue lives matter" flag around her shoulders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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