HanoiVillan Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) She's torched at least as much credibility as anyone else, and possibly more. A good lesson in reminding everyone that just because someone can put the word 'Doctor' before their name doesn't mean that they're good. Edited August 26, 2020 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: She's torched at least as much credibility as anyone else, and possibly more. A good lesson in reminding everyone that just because someone can put the word 'Doctor' before their name doesn't mean that they're good. I work with someone who is a doctor of engineering, he is epically useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted August 26, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: just because someone can put the word 'Doctor' before their name doesn't mean that they're good. Who, though? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 42 minutes ago, blandy said: Who, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 26, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2020 Well due to @HanoiVillan's posting of her previous tweet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Schools are safe, because Boris has declared it so. Sit shoulder to shoulder with strangers, with no PPE for 6 hours a day. It's fine. Shops? No, no, masks are essential. But schools are fine. The virus doesn't go in to schools. You trust your government don't you? they have your best interests at heart, certainly. Whatever you do, do not visit your friends at home, it is NOT SAFE. But schools are fine. Trust us. Wear a mask at work. But stop worrying about schools, they're fine, it's all safe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2020 My office, which on a day with completely full capacity would have significantly less than 20 people in a small office that never the less is bigger than most classrooms and would still have more space between the staff, has instituted the following rules for return to the office. - no-one can sit next to or directly opposite anyone - desk spaces have been turned into cubicles effectively with sheeting around the occupied desks to isolate then further. - a one way system has been instituted to move around the office - the break out/kitchen area is off limits - the toilets have a designated waiting area with specific guidance on using the facilities - the lift can't be used - office hours have been altered so people arrive and leave separately But yeah, schools, which aren't famously Petri dishes in motion filled with occupants that don't follow rules very well, are completely safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, Chindie said: - the toilets have a designated waiting area with specific guidance on using the facilities Shitting on the floor's out then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Shitting on the floor's out then? In fairness based on some of the office toilet horrors I've seen, this could be Covid-19's biggest plus point. Until it gets Trump and Johnson anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welnik Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 16 hours ago, Davkaus said: Schools are safe, because Boris has declared it so. Sit shoulder to shoulder with strangers, with no PPE for 6 hours a day. It's fine. Shops? No, no, masks are essential. But schools are fine. The virus doesn't go in to schools. You trust your government don't you? they have your best interests at heart, certainly. Whatever you do, do not visit your friends at home, it is NOT SAFE. But schools are fine. Trust us. Wear a mask at work. But stop worrying about schools, they're fine, it's all safe. Has there been any reports of spikes in schoools? Is there lots of evidence of children infecting each other and bringing it home to their parents? I'm genuinely interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 27, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, welnik said: Has there been any reports of spikes in schoools? Is there lots of evidence of children infecting each other and bringing it home to their parents? I'm genuinely interested You mean in the schools that have basically been shut for the last 5 months? How could there be any? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welnik Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, bickster said: You mean in the schools that have basically been shut for the last 5 months? How could there be any? And in the schools that were open for all the children of the key workers? Edited August 27, 2020 by welnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 27, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, welnik said: And in the schools that were open for all the children of the key workers? You realise that this wasn't normal 35-40 to a class schooling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welnik Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, bickster said: You realise that this wasn't normal 35-40 to a class schooling? I do yes. In my area there were perhaps 70 - 80 children in the primary school and about 150 in the senior school. Most of the parents of these children are doctors and nurses ( Solihull is an affluent area after all). These are the people who will be massively exposed to the virus day after day. And yet there was no spike in either of the schools. Indeed, there didn't appear to be any transmission at all. Maybe things will change, but children should absolutely be back at school, if only for their mental health! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 27, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, welnik said: I do yes. In my area there were perhaps 70 - 80 children in the primary school and about 150 in the senior school. Most of the parents of these children are doctors and nurses ( Solihull is an affluent area after all). These are the people who will be massively exposed to the virus day after day. And yet there was no spike in either of the schools. Indeed, there didn't appear to be any transmission at all. Maybe things will change, but children should absolutely be back at school, if only for their mental health! My understanding is that the risk is relatively low in Primary but its the children aged 12 or 13 and above that are the ones more at risk of infection and therefore spreading the virus throughout their communities and beyond So 150 in a Senior School sounds like a relative small number in an environment compared to normal circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2020 Park playgrounds now reopened round here. So we took the grandchildren to the local one. Signs everywhere about social distancing, e.g. four swings, only two to be used at a time. All in use, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, welnik said: Has there been any reports of spikes in schoools? Is there lots of evidence of children infecting each other and bringing it home to their parents? I'm genuinely interested Scottish schools returned a couple of weeks ago, I believe there is a school in Dundee where something like 39 cases have been identified, mostly among the teachers, which would suggest either the teachers are all touching each other, or the problem with kids is that they can be carriers. twitter says 39, NHS Tayside says 34, you pays your money and takes your choice Quote KINGSPARK SCHOOL COVID-19 confirmed cases as at 2pm: • Number of confirmed COVID-19 positive cases = 34 This is made up of: • 21 members of staff • 3 pupils • 10 community contacts The school remains closed and all staff and pupils continue to self-isolate. Household members of pupils should also continue to self-isolate if they are unable to maintain physical distancing within the household Edited August 27, 2020 by chrisp65 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, welnik said: I do yes. In my area there were perhaps 70 - 80 children in the primary school and about 150 in the senior school. Most of the parents of these children are doctors and nurses ( Solihull is an affluent area after all). These are the people who will be massively exposed to the virus day after day. And yet there was no spike in either of the schools. Indeed, there didn't appear to be any transmission at all. Maybe things will change, but children should absolutely be back at school, if only for their mental health! Do you live in an affluent area then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) My kids go into year 4 and 6 next week. For me I think the benefits (mental heath, physical health and education of course) hugely outweigh the relatively low chance of them getting ill with the virus. Edited August 27, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Genie said: My kids go into year 4 and 6 next week. For me I think the benefits (mental heath, physical health and education of course) hugely outweigh the relatively low chance of them getting ill with the virus. I think that’s about right, it’s the structure to lives and the education and the socialising that is really important. I think the kids are less at risk than the grandparents that will be picking them up at 3:30pm, I think that’s where the problem could be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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