LakotaDakota Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I would say its pretty right wing to dismiss lives of certain people and push the idea that they would have died anyway. I would say it's strange that none of you are slating blandy & remarking on his every post for having some common sense when looking at the numbers despite him saying exactly the same as myself & a few others have said. Maybe because he's a mod? Edited May 5, 2020 by LakotaDakota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 5, 2020 Moderator Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, LakotaDakota said: I would say it's strange that none of you are slating blandy for having some common sense when looking at the numbers despite him saying exactly the same as myself & a few others have said. Maybe because he's a mod? Maybe because he hasn't said exactly the same as yourself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: & quite a lot will just be normal people who want to see their families/go to work & are now being called right wing because of this opinion because it differs from what the left echo bubble deems to be right... 10 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Is the one with the bald head the right wing one ? Or the girl with flowers in her hair? Or Corbyns brother? You seem to have imagined that someone said ALL people who want the lockdown to end or get back to work are right wing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: I know exactly what i said. If you do not agreee 100% with the twitter left you are classed as right wing, there is no middle ground. Honestly it's as bad on here. Absolute bollocks. Noticing more and more people moaning because lots of other people don’t agree with them. Whatever your angle just say your piece and don’t get all worried over left wing and right wing or the fact your views might put you in a minority on some issues on some forums. 60% govt approval rating and all that. You simply can’t complain of left wing group think bubble sheeple, it kind of makes for any alternative view point just looking a bit lame and self pitying. It’s a cop out to justify a view that’s been challenged. Or to use a non-‘twitter left’ expression, man up. If they’re your views, if you prefer takeaway coffee over saving 600,000 lives, just say it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: I would say it's strange that none of you are slating blandy & remarking on his every post for having some common sense when looking at the numbers despite him saying exactly the same as myself & a few others have said. Maybe because he's a mod? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: I would say it's strange that none of you are slating blandy & remarking on his every post for having some common sense when looking at the numbers despite him saying exactly the same as myself & a few others have said. Maybe because he's a mod? No it's because he hasn't said the exactly same thing as you at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: I know exactly what i said. If you do not agreee 100% with the twitter left you are classed as right wing, there is no middle ground & honestly it's as bad on here. This post is a load of bollocks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 honestly can't be arsed. One of you mods just delete my account & all historical posts please. Cya . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Is the one with the bald head the right wing one ? Or the girl with flowers in her hair? Or Corbyns brother? Remember brexit? back then, some people like little sergeant Francois couldn’t understand the difference between ‘all racists voted brexit’, and ‘all brexit voters are racist’. don’t be sergeant Francois 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2020 The split on the lockdown is exactly the same as the split on the EU, and it'll be the same interests pushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Thankfully it isn't a named brand virus or it would cost 6 times the price of this one but with the same effect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 The only clear thing is that serious reform of the NHS is required. This crisis has clearly demonstrated how the NHS is not fit for the modern world. Thus, the need to revolutionize & modernize the NHS to give the great British people the Spoiler privatized, for-profit healthcare they deserve. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) I don't think it's such an outrageous view to think we should be seeing it eased up. We're going to live slightly differently for a long time. Social distancing is here to stay for the next year or more. But the stated objective of the lockdown was to flatten the peak, so that our health service didn't collapse. It was never meant to be quarantining the entire country indefinitely. The Nightingale hospitals weren't needed, and while it's been very stressful on NHS staff, we haven't looked like breaching even the normal capacity, while still having the headroom of the Nightingale sites. And yes, we've gone nowhere near the capacity because of lockdown, and things will get tougher when things people are free to go out more, we may need to just ease restrictions gradually, and if we go too far, maybe we'll need to increase them again. But we should absolutely be having conversations about how long it's really necessary for this to go on for. Edited May 5, 2020 by Davkaus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Is it the one on the left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: I would say it's strange that none of you are slating blandy & remarking on his every post for having some common sense when looking at the numbers despite him saying exactly the same as myself & a few others have said. Maybe because he's a mod? Go back a few pages and you'll see me tackle him on exactly that. Funnily enough, it's because he got his knickers in a twist and got all Ranty and hard done by that I've stopped engaging with those posts. At least he can agree to disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I'm off to listen to Bob Marley doing 'Two Love' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wazzap24 Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) Wrong thread! Edited May 5, 2020 by wazzap24 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: I don't think it's such an outrageous view to think we should be seeing it eased up. It's not. And I don't think anyone is really arguing that it is at this point. I personally think it will be extended and I support that, but I wouldn't be surprised or particularly opposed to it being eased earlier, obviously with the caveat that it is safe to do so. This whole thing was merely me saying that I had personally observed that the majority of the support for easing or lifting lockdowns here or in the US seems to come from right wing people or media. I don't mean extreme right wing nazis or anything, just people who would lean to the right on the political scale. I think if some people think they're being labelled as "right wing" they don't like it. Edited May 5, 2020 by blandy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I think if some people think they're being labelled as "right wing" they don't like it. I can see why. I'm not sure if you're right that it's a right wing majority supporting the end of lockdown, but they're certainly the loudest and angriest. It does make me feel vaguely uncomfortable agreeing, to an extent! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I don't understand why the last two pages blew up. It is just obviously, visibly true that most of the voices pushing loudest for a fast end to restrictions belong to *some* conservatives. That doesn't mean that all conservatives want to end restrictions (clearly lots don't, polling demonstrates this) or that there are no left-wing people who want an end to restrictions. But I can't fathom how @Stevo985's original question was controversial in the first place. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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