Lichfield Dean Posted April 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Jareth said: I'd have thought it would happen, he is the leader of the country. ICU isn't a hotel - it's for saving lives. I don't care who you are you only go in there if it's an emergency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Obviously fighting damn hard for his life as we speak. Chances are he won’t make it. Very sad indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Awol said: Life really is odd sometimes. A scholar, admirer and frequent reciter of Classical Greek literature, fervent admirer of Churchill and expecting a baby, only to be struck down by the very crisis he thought himself born to lead his country through. Instead he has the lead role in an epic tragedy. You couldn’t make it up. If he felt he was born to lead the country through this crisis it might have been an idea not to have been foolish enough to be giving it the big un a month ago about shaking the hands of those with coronavirus. You do wonder off the back of his casual attitude if that contributed to him continuing to not be cautious enough himself and getting this and also how much his attitude a month or so ago influenced others to be as casual. The above is not to say he deserves to have become ill and I genuinely wish him well. Edited April 6, 2020 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 hours ago, chrisp65 said: One thing that will work against him would be sleep pattern. I very much doubt he’s a bed at 10 (home by 12) rise at 7:30 sort of chap. Those children won't make themselves will they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Lichfield Dean said: ICU isn't a hotel - it's for saving lives. I don't care who you are you only go in there if it's an emergency. I can't bear dear old Johnson, but I would hope we protected our PM better than that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I'm not a medical professional but surely you don't go to intensive care as a precaution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 They won’t tell the truth of his condition. The fact he’s in ICU tells you everything . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted April 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jareth said: I can't bear dear old Johnson, but I would hope we protected our PM better than that.... Well maybe, it just doesn't ring true with my experiences of how ICUs work. I'm sure he's getting the absolute best of care, I just don't really believe the 'precaution' line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: If he felt he was born to lead the country through this crisis it might have been an idea not to have been foolish enough to be giving it the big un a month ago about shaking the hands of those with coronavirus. You do wonder off the back of his casual, bordering on reckless attitude, if that contributed to him continuing to not be cautious enough himself and getting this and also how much his attitude a month or so ago influenced others to be as casual. And others have said, why have Germany done so well? Well maybe it's because their leader on a personal level, having written a thesis on quantum chemistry - just understands better the level of crisis they face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lichfield Dean said: I don't really believe they'd move him to ICU as a 'precaution' - even in the best of times that's not going to happen let alone when they are snowed under like this. ICU is for when you need 24 hour monitoring and are hooked up to all the top-end lifesaving machines, and the number of beds is strictly limited - at Good Hope there are what half a dozen? Even if you're PM they surely wouldn't give you a bed there unless it's critical. He will be priority over anyone in the hospital, believe, he is the leader of the country. If he needs a ventilator next to just in case he might need it, he'll get it!! Can't believe few were moaning cause he may have got a test before Joe Bloggs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Would appear that RT were the only ones telling it straight on this story. Funny old world. RIA were reporting Johnson was on life support in the early hours of this morning. He’s been moved to ICU in last 2 hours, reportedly not on a ventilator yet. Tell enough lies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: He will be priority over anyone in the hospital, believe, he is the leader of the country. If he needs a ventilator next to just in case he might need it, he'll get it!! Can't believe few were moaning cause he may have got a test before Joe Bloggs? There’s capacity at the moment, he is bound to have a bed reserved. If it was BoJo vs some kid, well we’d all unhook him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 6, 2020 He really should have stopped and rested up when he got it. It surely can't be good for you to keep working through it. I know he's got to project an image but this isn't working through with a bad cold is it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, sidcow said: So they have it twice as bad as us as we have 8 times the population, plus significantly more high density large cities. No, that's not right, as total population size doesn't matter in the early stages of a pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Get well soon bojo. He dont deserve this even if his methods arr questionable. Pull through 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, sidcow said: He really should have stopped and rested up when he got it. It surely can't be good for you to keep working through it. I know he's got to project an image but this isn't working through with a bad cold is it. Yes, he absolutely should. There was a period when he was being altogether too casual about it, including - as @markavfc40 mentions above - joking about continuing to shake hands with patients who had it as he toured hospital wards. The whole government appear to have been taking the issue much much too lightly at the start of March. (It shouldn't need saying, but obviously I wish everyone who gets ill with this disease a full recovery, no matter their politics). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: The whole government appear to have been taking the issue much much too lightly at the start of March. If he should die from this, then it will be wholly because he didn't take it seriously enough - as leader, that attitude may cost him his life, but it certainly has cost many others as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Whether you like him or not I really hope he recovers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, sidcow said: He really should have stopped and rested up when he got it. It surely can't be good for you to keep working through it. I know he's got to project an image but this isn't working through with a bad cold is it. I guess he wasn’t to know what flavour he was getting. Prince Charles and Hancock managed to shake it off fairly quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugeley Villa Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Jareth said: If he should die from this, then it will be wholly because he didn't take it seriously enough - as leader, that attitude may cost him his life, but it certainly has cost many others as well. Were any of us taking this seriously . I know I weren’t. Easy saying it now but I think we all thought it was going to blow over. Let’s not put blood on his hands whilst he’s fighting for his life. He was being advised by people remember, and all this is a bit new to us. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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