il_serpente Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: I know I got mocked for mentioning earlier that she died last night all I know is I got told a communication went to the FA this morning that all games are to be postponed this weekend due to news that would be broken later in the day to do with the royal family so....make of that what you will So we may not get a chance to play Leicester before Rodgers is sacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 Just now, il_serpente said: So we may not get a chance to play Leicester before Rodgers is sacked? I appreciate you have your priorities down Morten! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, il_serpente said: So we may not get a chance to play Leicester before Rodgers is sacked? Possibly not!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Charles has had long, long time to think about what he'll do when he's King? The idiots' press will be on him if he's outspoken about the mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: I know I got mocked for mentioning earlier that she died last night all I know is I got told a communication went to the FA this morning that all games are to be postponed this weekend due to news that would be broken later in the day to do with the royal family so....make of that what you will Arise, Sir Pissflaps, Knight of the Order of the ITK 🗡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Enjoyed all the ITK showboating today btw. They’ve cancelled all the telly, Huw Edwards is wearing a black tie, and the entire royal family is being flown into Balmoral from its ancestral planets in Alpha Centauri. Barry from HR is in the staff kitchen, whispering to his colleagues about the ultra classified top secret news he has picked up via his network of informers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Brumerican said: I'm curious to see how they approach the matter in the Bills v Rams game coming up shortly or even it's mentioned ? Side note the NFL season starts in about 90 minutes Well they started the night with Star Spangled Banner . A song that famously celebrates the defeat of the British Monarchy. Looks like they have gone down the maximum disrespect route. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, KentVillan said: Enjoyed all the ITK showboating today btw. They’ve cancelled all the telly, Huw Edwards is wearing a black tie, and the entire royal family is being flown into Balmoral from its ancestral planets in Alpha Centauri. Barry from HR is in the staff kitchen, whispering to his colleagues about the ultra classified top secret news he has picked up via his network of informers Orion Nebula. The Pyramids of Giza look nothing like Alpha Centauri. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Brumerican said: Orion Nebula. The Pyramids of Giza look nothing like Alpha Centauri. Apologies, you’re right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Genuine questions from an outsider, for those who do not like the monarchy. Why do y’all want to rid yourselves of the monarchy? What are the positives of changing to a republic that you don’t get with a monarchy? What is wrong with the monarchy staying intact since it is mostly a ceremonial post at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Genuine questions from an outsider, for those who do not like the monarchy. Why do y’all want to rid yourselves of the monarchy? What are the positives of changing to a republic that you don’t get with a monarchy? What is wrong with the monarchy staying intact since it is mostly a ceremonial post at this point? When one of them dies, Sunday League gets canceled. I’d like that to happen less. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Genuine questions from an outsider, for those who do not like the monarchy. Why do y’all want to rid yourselves of the monarchy? What are the positives of changing to a republic that you don’t get with a monarchy? What is wrong with the monarchy staying intact since it is mostly a ceremonial post at this point? I’m not a kind of “proactive” Republican, but I wouldn’t be too fussed if we phased out the monarchy. I think the thing that is poorly understood is just how powerful and wealthy the Royal Family still are. They own enormous expanses of land in the British Isles and across the Commonwealth, and besides their theoretical political power which they have tended in recent times to delegate to the democratically elected government, they enjoy a lot of the same influence that billionaire landowners enjoy in any country. So it’s not just a ceremonial, fancy dress thing. They actually still wield all sorts of power and privileges that they accumulated over the centuries through behaviour that historically was not that dissimilar to Putin and the Russian oligarchs. The Queen handled all that inherited power and wealth in largely a positive way, as far as I could see, and seemed a decent person. Will things continue like that with her descendants? Who knows? That’s the problem with hereditary rule, you put so much faith in the “good” monarch behaving in a benevolent way. I guess a lot will depend on how Charles handles his new role. It seems like other parliamentary democracies like Ireland and Germany have thrived under ceremonial heads of state who are elected by the people, and don’t have a huge amount of political power. Long term could something like that work here? Why not? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Aside from the politics, economics and hypocrisy of it all... IT'S SUPER **** WEIRD!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meregreen Posted September 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Genuine questions from an outsider, for those who do not like the monarchy. Why do y’all want to rid yourselves of the monarchy? What are the positives of changing to a republic that you don’t get with a monarchy? What is wrong with the monarchy staying intact since it is mostly a ceremonial post at this point? No law can be passed in this country without the monarchs assent. That’s not simply ceremonial. Monarchs tend not to get involved in politics, because if they did then that would be controversial, something that might threaten their privileged lives. They do however endow the executive of this country with enormous power through the Royal prerogative. This enables the Government to bypass a lot of scrutiny in Parliament, a dangerous thing in the wrong hands. Above all, regardless of the individual merits of any monarch, it’s what they represent that is anathema in the modern world, privilege and power through birth regardless of merit. No head of States position should be decreed by which womb they are conceived in. I want all children born in this country to be able to aspire to be its head of State. It’s nothing personal, simply an issue of principle. For now though, these arguments are for another day. I’ll simply proffer my condolences to the Sax Coburg family as I would any other at their sad loss of a mother, grandmother and great grandmother. Edited September 9, 2022 by meregreen 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAuthority Posted September 9, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Panto_Villan said: Yeah, I sorta see what you're saying. Ultimately though I feel like you can opt into or out of the royals as much as you want - obviously you can't completely escape all mention of them, but you certainly can avoid the bulk of it. And you also can't completely escape a massive celebrity like Kim Kardashian either, just because they get so much coverage. In some regards she's been a constant presence in our lives for years too. So I sorta feel like you're picking out a strand of modern society where celebrities are foisted on your simply because enough other people in the world are interested in them and attributing it to royal priviledge. Whereas I think in reality most of this is occurring because the Queen is literally one of the most famous people in the world. I know the institution of the monarchy feels very archaic, but I think in practice the way society treated the Queen was just like any other celebrity. Does that make sense? Your argument makes sense but I respectfully disagree. Actors, musicians, sportspeople, even the Kardashians receive "fame" through some sort of meritocracy. Growing up in England, every stamp I ever licked (insert KW) and every cash transaction has the Queens head on it (think Big Brother.) The BBC used to play the national anthem when they shut down broadcasting every night. Major sporting events and performances use the national anthem forcing you to think about the monarch - it is state enforced celebrity. And what it says is, that whatever you do, however hard you work, however amazing you are, there is always someone above you - always someone better. Just because "God" said so. You might not believe in God, or share the same God, but this particular family is, and always will be better than whatever you achieve. It creates a servile mentality. It's inane in 2022 and watching the coverage makes it very weird and as @meregreen stated much more eloquently than I, it all looks like propaganda. Slightly OT but related - I was living in London when Diana died. I swear to this day that mass hysteria overtook the UK. The worship and endless manufactured grief was insane. People were interviewed saying they'd never been to London before but just had to come and "be there." For what? Some woman had died. She wasn't there. Perhaps if it was Gandhi, or M. Theresa (if that's your jam) and they were alive and visiting. Then the one time in your life you make the trip to your country's capital would be to see some major historical figure - I can understand that. But no, I want to visit and stand in a crowd with other maudlin people. It was like a psychosis, which I believe some still suffer from today about her and the Royals. Sure, nice lady, seemed like a crappy marriage and she went and did a bit of good (holding hands with HIV patients in NYC was ground breaking, landmines etc.) But in reality, that's about the least someone of that kind of privilege should be doing! The coverage I'm reading and seeing seemingly is trying to create a similar state of mass psychosis. I only follow football people on Twitter because I can't stand the political cesspool. But even on that feed it's relentless QE2. It makes me think of the Stalin speeches when you can't be the first one to stop clapping. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Would they change the banknotes considering Charlie is already on most of them? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AJ Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 6 hours ago, LondonLax said: I think he was being facetious. People have lived in Australia for 40,000 years. Aware of that. Just running with the theme when the invaders decided to call Australia and US countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 6 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Where did all those indigenous people come from? Already there, already established, but unfortunately like any indigenous population caught up in the Euro colonialism land grab, they didn't count apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2022 41 minutes ago, AJ said: Aware of that. Just running with the theme when the invaders decided to call Australia and US countries. Does David Vincent know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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