Popular Post Mark Albrighton Posted September 18, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2023 A bit niche and a bit retro here, and it’s 15 or so years after the fact (but I’m reminded of it following a clip of a certain “comedian” on the show that I saw today). I never thought it was that unreasonable for Preston to walk off Never mind the Buzzcocks at the point he did. The show and Simon Amstel in particular would take the piss, fair enough, he knows that going in. I think it’s a different thing when the subject of ridicule is not the guest but the guest’s then partner. It really feels to me Amstel was punching down on someone who isn’t even there and I think that’s what got under Preston’s skin. The joke starts off as “Haha your band is a bit crap and you were on Big Brother”, but it then becomes more “Haha your wife is a bit of thicko pleb, she thinks the Daily Mail is posh”. Preston may well be a bit of a dick and he may have walked off anyway. But the point at which he did, for me was fairly understandable. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Mark Albrighton said: A bit niche and a bit retro here, and it’s 15 or so years after the fact (but I’m reminded of it following a clip of a certain “comedian” on the show that I saw today). I never thought it was that unreasonable for Preston to walk off Never mind the Buzzcocks at the point he did. The show and Simon Amstel in particular would take the piss, fair enough, he knows that going in. I think it’s a different thing when the subject of ridicule is not the guest but the guest’s then partner. It really feels to me Amstel was punching down on someone who isn’t even there and I think that’s what got under Preston’s skin. The joke starts off as “Haha your band is a bit crap and you were on Big Brother”, but it then becomes more “Haha your wife is a bit of thicko pleb, she thinks the Daily Mail is posh”. Preston may well be a bit of a dick and he may have walked off anyway. But the point at which he did, for me was fairly understandable. Yeeees, totally agree. It wasn’t cool to think so, but I thought it was just televised bullying. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Mark Albrighton said: A bit niche and a bit retro here, and it’s 15 or so years after the fact (but I’m reminded of it following a clip of a certain “comedian” on the show that I saw today). I never thought it was that unreasonable for Preston to walk off Never mind the Buzzcocks at the point he did. The show and Simon Amstel in particular would take the piss, fair enough, he knows that going in. I think it’s a different thing when the subject of ridicule is not the guest but the guest’s then partner. It really feels to me Amstel was punching down on someone who isn’t even there and I think that’s what got under Preston’s skin. The joke starts off as “Haha your band is a bit crap and you were on Big Brother”, but it then becomes more “Haha your wife is a bit of thicko pleb, she thinks the Daily Mail is posh”. Preston may well be a bit of a dick and he may have walked off anyway. But the point at which he did, for me was fairly understandable. The YouTube algorithm served up Amstell ripping into Preston's wife today and I agree, it was the right thing to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 10 hours ago, mjmooney said: Of my 120 wins, I'd be surprised if more than a dozen (if that) were from On Topic. "I can't help noticing I have more wins than you" 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, luckyeddie said: "I can't help noticing I have more wins than you" Nah, that's small potatoes compared with the big hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Nah, that's small potatoes compared with the big hitters. Small potatoes are better than no potatoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted September 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2023 On 11/09/2023 at 19:20, chrisp65 said: Ever seen anybody lose a crowd quicker than Billy Bragg down Cardiff Bay saying he was glad to be back in England? He did apologise once he worked out why the crowd had gone a bit funny. He said it was muscle memory his brain had wanted to say nice to be back in Wales, his mouth let him down. Fair play. I've lost a crowd at a conference pretty quickly before. The next year I mentioned it at the beginning of my equally boring talk, which I think shamed a few people into staying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 The Godather trilogy is overrated. Overlong stilted melodrama saved by a couple of strong lead performances And no matter how many different cuts Coppola has done Part III is a dog of a movie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 On 18/09/2023 at 20:10, Mark Albrighton said: A bit niche and a bit retro here, and it’s 15 or so years after the fact (but I’m reminded of it following a clip of a certain “comedian” on the show that I saw today). I never thought it was that unreasonable for Preston to walk off Never mind the Buzzcocks at the point he did. The show and Simon Amstel in particular would take the piss, fair enough, he knows that going in. I think it’s a different thing when the subject of ridicule is not the guest but the guest’s then partner. It really feels to me Amstel was punching down on someone who isn’t even there and I think that’s what got under Preston’s skin. The joke starts off as “Haha your band is a bit crap and you were on Big Brother”, but it then becomes more “Haha your wife is a bit of thicko pleb, she thinks the Daily Mail is posh”. Preston may well be a bit of a dick and he may have walked off anyway. But the point at which he did, for me was fairly understandable. Definitely not unreasonable, but a silly booking all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: The Godather trilogy is overrated. Overlong stilted melodrama saved by a couple of strong lead performances And no matter how many different cuts Coppola has done Part III is a dog of a movie. I don’t think your last sentence will be too controversial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: The Godather trilogy is overrated. Overlong stilted melodrama saved by a couple of strong lead performances And no matter how many different cuts Coppola has done Part III is a dog of a movie. Edited September 20, 2023 by Xela 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, The Fun Factory said: The Godather trilogy is overrated. Overlong stilted melodrama saved by a couple of strong lead performances And no matter how many different cuts Coppola has done Part III is a dog of a movie. Its not as good as goodfellas or casino imo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: The Godather trilogy is overrated. Overlong stilted melodrama saved by a couple of strong lead performances And no matter how many different cuts Coppola has done Part III is a dog of a movie. Well, yes, the piss-poor part 3 does disqualify it from being a great trilogy. But 1+2 is a combined masterpiece. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I've never made it through Godfather part 1 or 2 without getting bored and turning it off, or falling asleep, and at this point I don't think I can bring myself to try again. They're dreadful, tedious films. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Well, yes, the piss-poor part 3 does disqualify it from being a great trilogy. But 1+2 is a combined masterpiece. I'd agree with this. Godfather 1 and 2 I've probably watched 15+ times over the last 35 odd years and if I switched the TV over now and one of them was on I'd be pulled into watching it. They are classics and up there in my top 20 films I've ever seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) I can respect their influence for sure, I don't think I ever tried to watch them until a decade or so ago, and while they might have been brilliant at the time, the pacing is so slow, and it suffers from appearing retrospectively derivative because of how many films have done "Godfather, but...". I probably would have enjoyed it 40 years ago, but going back to it now having seen hundreds of films that have taken inspiration from it, it just doesn't entertain me. Kind of like the Beatles of films. But it goes on for **** hours. Edited September 20, 2023 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2023 31 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I probably would have enjoyed it 40 years ago, but going back to it now having seen hundreds of films that have taken inspiration from it, it just doesn't entertain me. Kind of like the Beatles of films. But it goes on for **** hours. Perfectly reasonable. But you said it was overrated. That's very different from simply saying it was of its time, and you don't enjoy it now. I hardly ever listen to The Beatles these days, but I don't think they were/are overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: Perfectly reasonable. But you said it was overrated. Wrong poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted September 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2023 I think they’re great but I understand why someone wouldn’t like them. Maybe not quite as much these days, but for a while I think they were the archetypal choice of would be film bros who’d proclaim “Oh you can’t truly say you understand film if you haven’t seen the godfather…” or sentiments of that nature. But there’s a lot of stuff I really enjoy. The prequel stuff with DeNiro in the second one is excellent. Only watched the third film once. I don’t remember hating it, but I guess as I’ve only seen it once I can’t have enjoyed as much as the others which I’ve seen a few times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 FWIW, I honestly wish I could go back and watch it at a moment in time, without preconceptions or derivative art in my mind, but it's bloody hard going just going into it in 2023 without any nostalgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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