The Hung Like a Donkey General Election December 2019 Thread

[Davkaus]

Just now, LakotaDakota said:

Think blyth pretty much confirms the exit polls

Yup. There is no doubt.

[StefanAVFC]

Labour lost Blyth.

No way.

That's a safe Labour seat. Was.

Gobble gobble, Christmas in 2 weeks folks.

[Sam-AVFC]

1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said:

-18% **** hell

I’m struggling with 100% turnout...

[LondonLax]

Can we have that rethink of the Labour leadership now?

[LakotaDakota]

Just now, StefanAVFC said:

Labour lost Blyth.

No way.

That's a safe Labour seat. Was.

Gobble gobble, Christmas in 2 weeks folks.

70 years is about as safe as it gets I guess. The times they are a-changin

[Davkaus]

1 minute ago, LondonLax said:

Can we have that rethink of the Labour leadership now?

i'll start setting traps for the tramp king and his followers.

It's going to take some fumigation to get rid of the momentum stench

[markavfc40]

Brexit party are taking a lot more of Labour votes than Tories. 

[StefanAVFC]

Tory word removed in Blyth crying.

**** you.

[Rodders]

2 minutes ago, LondonLax said:

Can we have that rethink of the Labour leadership now?

I think that's the one point on which there is universal agreement in this thread. 

[OutByEaster?]

Laura's knickers are already soaking.

 

[Davkaus]

Just now, markavfc40 said:

Brexit party are taking a lot more of Labour votes than Tories. 

It's almost like "eh......I haven't decided" isn't a good look.

Corbyn looks ineffective and weak compared to a bloke who hides in a **** fridge. He'll go down as the worst Labour party leader in history (so far).

[LondonLax]

Just now, Rodders said:

I think that's the one point on which there is universal agreement in this thread. 

A bit frustrating it didn’t happen a few years ago. Going to be an interesting few years. 

[StefanAVFC]

I think the majority could be even larger.

[OutByEaster?]

3 minutes ago, LondonLax said:

Can we have that rethink of the Labour leadership now?

The combined efforts of the media, corporate power and the financial state have put any idea of Socialism back into its box for a generation tonight.

The best alternative we can hope for is the emergence of a Bliar-esque soft tory ideology - a bit of butter rather than the Conservative's straight-in-dry.

Tonight has killed any genuine political alternative to strict adherence to Neo-Liberal market forces stone dead and most likely stone dead for my lifetime.

 

[Ingram85]

1 minute ago, LondonLax said:

A bit frustrating it didn’t happen a few years ago. Going to be an interesting few years. 

Interesting? It's going to be hard and a slog month to month to get by for me and I work full time. Yay.

[WhatAboutTheFinish]

2 minutes ago, Rodders said:

I think that's the one point on which there is universal agreement in this thread. 

The question is whether people realise after Foot, Kinnock, Brown, Miliband and Corbyn...that Labour can’t win elections by trying to appeal to Labour voters. 

[OutByEaster?]

Just now, WhatAboutTheFinish said:

The question is whether people realise after Foot, Kinnock, Brown, Miliband and Corbyn...that Labour can’t win elections by trying to appeal to Labour voters. 

Indeed - if Labour want to win elections, they need to give up on the idea of being Labour - or at least buy a couple of newspapers.

 

[StefanAVFC]

Just now, OutByEaster? said:

Indeed - if Labour want to win elections, they need to give up on the idea of being Labour - or at least buy a couple of newspapers.

 

Yep. The country is broadly centre to centre right. To win elections, target them.

[LondonLax]

2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

The combined efforts of the media, corporate power and the financial state have put any idea of Socialism back into its box for a generation tonight.

The best alternative we can hope for is the emergence of a Bliar-esque soft tory ideology - a bit of butter rather than the Conservative's straight-in-dry.

Tonight has killed any genuine political alternative to strict adherence to Neo-Liberal market forces stone dead and most likely stone dead for my lifetime.

 

It was never alive though, it was a fantasy that it was a popular political position. 

Labour need to get back to New Labour but without the wars. 

[Ingram85]

Labour need to focus on winning elections. Just lie to the racists and the rich then once in do whatever the **** you want to **** them over. Thats the state of politics. It's a popularity contest/appeal to the base. Lie to get in power then sort the rest out after. Use it to your advantage.