Popular Post ml1dch Posted March 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Weird how people, even women holding a vigil against violence, get violent, once the police step in to prevent violence. It also seems more than coincidental that the police don't seem quite so desperate to "step in" with the sort of group that will really fight back. So large groups of celebrating football fans or anti-lockdown dingbats can pretty much do what they like. Women holding candles saying that rape is A Bad Thing on the other hand are ripe for aggressive dispersal. They are basically sending the message that "if your demonstration is likely to smack us about a bit, we'll probably leave you alone". Which is unlikely to make their job easier in the long run. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post ml1dch Posted March 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Risso said: I'm pretty much on board with the idea that a bunch of anti-lockdown nobbers turned up later in the day and made the polices job a bit harder, as has been reported. I don't think that a dozen or so women standing in a circle chanting is the best evidence of it though. Edited March 14, 2021 by ml1dch 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I'm pretty much on board with the idea that a bunch of anti-lockdown nobbers turned up later in the day and made the polices job a bit harder, as has been reported. I don't think that a dozen or so women standing in a circle chanting is the best evidence of it though. The vast majority of people there were peacefully and respectfully taking part in the vigil. Then you have people like the above who were neither peaceful or respectful, and were clearly there just to cause trouble, at which point the police looked like they'd had enough and arrested some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted March 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 Horrific scenes. police completely justified to use force. Get a **** grip. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Seat68 said: With that they have lost me. **** em. **** em all. Bunch of words removed. Voted labour through the thin times with the hope that the useless rocket polishers could muster some sort of threat. They have lost me and I can now vote green with a clear conscience. words removed. I suspect that Green will do much better next time as a lot of Labour and Tory supporters are not happy with either right now. Although people have short memories and might be blinded by end of lockdown or something so who knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, Risso said: The vast majority of people there were peacefully and respectfully taking part in the vigil. Then you have people like the above who were neither peaceful or respectful, and were clearly there just to cause trouble, at which point the police looked like they'd had enough and arrested some of them. A small circle of women chanting "eff the police", in the week that a policeman is charged with the rape and murder of a young woman is evidence that a load of people deserved to be arrested? *shrugs* I guess it's one way of looking at it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 14, 2021 Now now. Coppers have feelings too. Sometimes they feel like snatching a woman off the streets to have their way with and dump their corpse on wasteground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted March 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 To thick to understand context. Not really any understanding of the law. A bit bored and being called rude names. At that point they decide to revert to type and wade in and make everything worse for the crowd, for themselves and for their bosses and for their supporters that now have to try and find some slim justification for police sitting on women in the park at night to cuff them, when the reason they were there, was male violence towards women. People take the piss out of the police for not being the most agile of thinkers. It’s easy to see why. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: A small circle of women chanting "eff the police", in the week that a policeman is charged with the rape and murder of a young woman is evidence that a load of people deserved to be arrested? *shrugs* I guess it's one way of looking at it. I'm not sure you can blame the police for this prick doing what he did. It's not like in America where you can get away with killing someone in cold blood whilst wearing a uniform. Also there must be a different definition of 'vigil' I don't know about, I thought they were to quietly pay your respects and grieve. That poor family, I bet this is the last thing they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 14, 2021 It could be seen as sending a message. A high profile gathering, hard times coming... Crush and remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I'm not sure you can blame the police for this prick doing what he did. I agree - and I personally, wouldn't. I'd also chuck at least one allegedly in there given there hasn't even been a trial yet. However if I were a woman and had the experience of society and law enforcement belittling and ignoring my sexual assault claims as so many women have reported over the last week I'd probably have a different outlook. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Risso said: Quite a few videos emerging of it being not exactly a peaceful vigil. Looks like a few activists made trouble for everybody. 1 hour ago, Risso said: This isn't evidence of it not being peaceful. A few naughty words does not justify the overzealous scenes we all saw. As others have said, it's unsurprising there's anger at police, when a policeman killed her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 If they're using COVID as an excuse to crack down on the vigil, then surely this: is inevitable. If they'd left it alone, there wouldn't be further breaches of their regulations as per above. Short-term thinking, awful PR. Stupidity all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 14, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 14, 2021 Priti Patel is at home watching that on her massive TV whispering "one more day, one more day". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 In all this I bet the police would love to have the resources to have more coppers on the street at night so women can feel safer on their own. Also have the ability to pay more to recruit better people than a guy already well into his 30s, but then murderous bastards exist regardless of pay scales and can seem perfectly normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: ...when a policeman killed her. Mate, angering though the whole affair is - that sort of thing really isn't alright at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: In all this I bet the police would love to have the resources to have more coppers on the street at night so women can feel safer on their own. Also have the ability to pay more to recruit better people than a guy already well into his 30s, but then murderous bastards exist regardless of pay scales and can seem perfectly normal. Indeed. So this is why getting rid of the Tory scumbags who have gutted the police (and every bit as important, the CPS and courts system) over the last decade is rather important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 14, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Indeed. So this is why getting rid of the Tory scumbags who have gutted the police (and every bit as important, the CPS and courts system) over the last decade is rather important. By way of illustrating this point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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