Tom13 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Assuming Gerrard does want him to sign a new contract, what do we think the issue is? wages? guarantee of not being mis-used as a 6 going forward? Asking if he would be in the first 11 going fwd? (as McGinn seems undroppable?, and the other 2 slots are almost certainly kamara & Ramsey) wants to move to a "bigger" club? a bit of everything? Brazilians generally prefer Italian / Spanish clubs IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gwi1890 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, useless said: Wouldn’t begrudge him a move there tbh, if we get a decent fee and buy Bissouma then it’s good business, if he stays and signs a new contract happy either way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 £15 mil min? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 55 minutes ago, Jareth said: £15 mil min? Yeah, would hope we can get closer to £20mil + a 10% sell on clause. City have a sell on clause in Luiz contract too I think 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted May 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 25, 2022 happy to see him sold. just never warmed to the guy. i get he's not a #6, but i remain unconvinced he's a better #8 than what we already have. i'd play mcginn, JJ, or sanson over him and we can probably put kamara above him in the pecking order too my biggest concern is that SG seems to rate him and also doesn't seem to see what we see when he plays him as a #6 and as long as he's at the club we run the risk of Luiz playing in that role. i'd love it if roma come in with a nice tidy bid that takes the decision out of SG's hands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, tomav84 said: happy to see him sold. just never warmed to the guy. i get he's not a #6, but i remain unconvinced he's a better #8 than what we already have. i'd play mcginn, JJ, or sanson over him and we can probably put kamara above him in the pecking order too my biggest concern is that SG seems to rate him and also doesn't seem to see what we see when he plays him as a #6 and as long as he's at the club we run the risk of Luiz playing in that role. i'd love it if roma come in with a nice tidy bid that takes the decision out of SG's hands I think his ball retention and ability to progress the ball forward is what his importance to Villa has been under Gerrard. He'll fit perfectly in Roma's system of 3 4 2 1 / 3 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 8 hours ago, gwi1890 said: Wouldn’t begrudge him a move there tbh, if we get a decent fee and buy Bissouma then it’s good business, if he stays and signs a new contract happy either way. Yeh I feel the same way. I like him but he is also infuriating! Reckon he’d do well in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 11 hours ago, Tom13 said: Sanson? No one has seen enough of him to make that call. Clearly there is an issue otherwise he would not have been overlooked by 2 managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 He can team up with Veretout and they can both moan about how they were misused when at Villa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Dante_Lockhart said: He can team up with Veretout and they can both moan about how they were misused when at Villa. Tammy there as well, we are Romas feeder club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Tammy there as well, we are Romas feeder club If Villa finish 5th, 6th or 7th we could be playing against Roma in Europa or Conference League, they usually end up around 6th in the league. Could be like class reunion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom13 Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) I liked Douglas the most during his first season. Yeah he was more error prone but he had a lot of excitement in his game. The two worldies he scored, and the assist VS Brighton - pure quality. He's a passionate character as well and I genuinely believe he's loved his time at Villa. The crowd surf against Watford at home will always stick in my memory as well. He's been inconsistent this season and last, and yeah probably is a bit better as an 8, but as other people have pointed out, his slight lack of athleticism may always limit him. I'd like him to stay and give him a proper run as an 8, but if he does go, wish him well. Oh, and as a 6 post lockdown, he was immense, played a big part in keeping us up. That at 22 years old in a new league should never be forgotten. Edited May 25, 2022 by Tom13 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted May 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 25, 2022 If he does go 25 to 30,000,000 surely in this market. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Always thought he would be a great player for us but Dougie has been yet another inconsistent player for us. It kills us in terms of putting a run together. And he literally can go from great to poor in the space of 3 days and then back again. It hasnt helped him constantly having to play at the base of midfield but whichever position he has played he has been inconsistent. Itsly will suit him. Slower and more technical. With his other midfielders giving more defensive support. Always looked great on the ball but just doesnt have the aggression or defensive mindset to play 6 in the long term. Kamara will show us what we expected Dougie to turn into i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 if we can get 30 mil for him then i reckon we should sell. He isnt a natural DM and Kamara will slot into that position. I would rather see Sanson in the position that Luiz plays and I think we can get someone that contributes a bit more numbers wise for our team in the squad. Luiz would do very well in Serie A with the style and pace of football there, I think the deal could suit all parties as he would be in with a shot of winning stuff at Roma too. Don't think he is a bad player at all and would be happy for him to stay, but if everything lines up for all parties and everyone is happy with the transfer then this is probably one that has come at the right time to act upon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 £25m not bad, with a bit of hardball we probably could get it closer to £30m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 This one is happening isnt it . I can see him excelling there as well where the press isnt as intense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: This one is happening isnt it . I can see him excelling there as well where the press isnt as intense I somewhat hope he does… I like the fella, I just don’t think he’s a good fit for us or the prem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 25m with one year left is a great deal. Im sorry to see him go but makes sense to cash in if he dint want to sign. I think he will get better no question. Has massive potential in my opinion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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