AVFCDAN Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, bickster said: Which is completely off topic for this discussion and thread Well fair enough, i suppose it could have gone in the general chat thread. I haven't followed this thread at all because I generally steer well clear of most political things but this is definitely being forced onto me from all angles at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: That's encouraging. I genuinely thought they'd have a small bounce. Me too, I genuinely thought Callous Cruella's naval escapades would strike a chord with the baser elements of the nation's psyche, but I'm glad to see it's not more widespread. It's fair to say the BBC have not covered themselves in glory over this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted March 13, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Xann said: Interesting, isn't it? You can see how a nation gets mugged off. Yep, you can see how fascism can creep in so gently. It doesn't come in wearing a cloak and an evil mask. It starts with outlawing protests, silencing critics and dehumanising 'others'. And it certainly doesn't like a mirror being held up to it. I hope Braverman's career somehow gets the consequences she deserves now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 It was reported somewhere that 30-odd Tory MP’s complained to the BBC to take action against Lineker’s tweet. Let’s have them named please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trekka Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 Worthy of a watch. What a lovely man and well done to him for sticking to his beliefs. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ml1dch Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, bickster said: This absolutely wasn't a dead cat Sunak's internal monologue will be one of absolute fury. It's the second week in a row his attempt to recover his popularity in the polls has been absolutely drowned out of the news cycle. First week it was Matt Hancock and last week Lineker. To add to this, it also misunderstands what the Tories are doing with their policy. The takes of "all this is to distract people from their positon on refugees" are completely wide of the mark - they think that it is the right policy and they think that it's popular. They want all the papers reporting on Sunak's "win" with France and how they are "stopping human traffickers". The last thing they wanted this to turn into was half a week of headlines on BBC social media policy. Edited March 13, 2023 by ml1dch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, rjw63 said: You ok hun? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, AVFCDAN said: Well fair enough, i suppose it could have gone in the general chat thread. I haven't followed this thread at all because I generally steer well clear of most political things but this is definitely being forced onto me from all angles at the moment. Because something really really important has just happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I can't say I've ever found a news story forced on me, If I'm not interested, I click on something else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I can't say I've ever found a news story forced on me, If I'm not interested, I click on something else. Like big boobies. Phwoarr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MakemineVanilla Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, AVFCDAN said: Thank god they've resolved this as swiftly as possible, not sure how we would all manage without Gary's incredible presenting skills and million pound plus salary on the books. The media realise that the country is in such a parlous state, that the population needs distracting from the the many present miseries and imminent crises the political class have inflicted on us. They needed a distraction after interest in Harry and Megan had started to fade. Saint Lineker of Leicester and Barnes obliged. The BBC are supposed to unite the country, or at least give the appearance of doing so, but they have followed Gramsci's plan to the letter, and their slip has been showing. The only good thing to come out of the issue, is that it invites questions about the way the BBC's is financed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Lineker is in the strong position of being able to walk into work at any of the other broadcasters. Without the worry of having bills to pay he was never going to back down to the BBC/Tories. Edited March 13, 2023 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, bickster said: You ok hun? Just joining in the phun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Genie said: Lineker is in the strong position of being able to walk into work at any of the other broadcasters. Without the worry of having bills to pay he was never going to back down to the BBC/Tories. As well as the strong position of quite obviously having done nothing wrong 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, MakemineVanilla said: The media realise that the country is in such a parlous state, that the population needs distracting from the the many present miseries and imminent crises the political class have inflicted on us. They needed a distraction after interest in Harry and Megan had started to fade. Saint Lineker of Leicester and Barnes obliged. The BBC are supposed to unite the country, or at least give the appearance of doing so, but they have followed Gramsci's plan to the letter, and their slip has been showing. The only good thing to come out of the issue, is that it invites questions about the way the BBC's is financed. The only thing the Lineker episode was a distraction from was Sunak attempting to resurrect the Tories and his flagging position in the polls. Unfortunately his own dogs of war put paid to that. As for the funding issue, nice to see you parroting the Tory agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, MakemineVanilla said: The only good thing to come out of the issue, is that it invites questions about the way the BBC's is financed. Not the only good thing - lots of Tories have been made to look silly, the "not a bell-end" side won for a change and a lot of terrible people are upset by that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, MakemineVanilla said: The media realise that the country is in such a parlous state, that the population needs distracting from the the many present miseries and imminent crises the political class have inflicted on us. They needed a distraction after interest in Harry and Megan had started to fade. Saint Lineker of Leicester and Barnes obliged. The BBC are supposed to unite the country, or at least give the appearance of doing so, but they have followed Gramsci's plan to the letter, and their slip has been showing. The only good thing to come out of the issue, is that it invites questions about the way the BBC's is financed. What a very odd take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: The last thing they wanted this to turn into was half a week of headlines on BBC social media policy. I think this is another of those "who is they" ones. There is a section of the Tory party that is pretty vehemently anti-BBC and "they" absolutely do want to take any opportunity to have a go at it. There is another, larger, section of the Tory party which is not really arsed about the BBC one way or the other - they know lots of their voters like the BBC and they don't want to be on the end of angry voter letters and e mails. Then there is the current leadership of the Tory party (and Government) who would like nice headlines about stuff they've done or said. I suspect Braverman is in the cabinet as part of some sort of deal from the last leadership thing. I'm sure she's intelligent, but I'm not sure she's very "smart" and this is an example - she's turned focus from where it was wanted to be to something most of the public agree with, which is Lineker's comments and BBC management weakness and apparent lack of independence from the Government. I guess the people at the top of the BBC hope this'll not lead to them having to go and it'll all get forgotten. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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